Cost of Living in Toronto

Summary about cost of living in Toronto:

Restaurants [ Edit ] Range
Meal, Inexpensive Restaurant 15.02 $ 11.26-18.77
Meal for 2 People, Mid-range Restaurant, Three-course 60.07 $ 45.05-75.08
McMeal at McDonalds (or Equivalent Combo Meal) 8.26 $ 6.76-9.76
Domestic Beer (1 pint draught) 6.01 $ 4.50-6.76
Imported Beer (12 oz small bottle) 6.38 $ 5.26-7.51
Cappuccino (regular) 3.22 $ 2.25-4.13
Coke/Pepsi (12 oz small bottle) 1.82 $ 1.13-2.25
Water (12 oz small bottle) 1.49 $ 0.75-2.25
Markets [ Edit ]
Milk (regular), (1 gallon) 7.38 $ 3.55-11.80
Loaf of Fresh White Bread (1 lb) 2.16 $ 1.36-2.72
Rice (white), (1 lb) 1.47 $ 0.78-2.04
Eggs (regular) (12) 2.68 $ 1.72-3.75
Local Cheese (1 lb) 6.92 $ 3.41-10.22
Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), (1 lb) 5.98 $ 3.41-8.85
Beef Round (1 lb) (or Equivalent Back Leg Red Meat) 7.62 $ 4.09-11.92
Apples (1 lb) 1.56 $ 0.85-2.04
Banana (1 lb) 0.70 $ 0.43-1.06
Oranges (1 lb) 1.75 $ 0.95-2.38
Tomato (1 lb) 1.50 $ 0.95-2.04
Potato (1 lb) 1.14 $ 0.51-1.36
Onion (1 lb) 1.09 $ 0.50-1.36
Lettuce (1 head) 2.26 $ 1.20-3.00
Water (1.5 liter bottle) 2.04 $ 0.94-3.00
Bottle of Wine (Mid-Range) 14.64 $ 9.76-18.77
Domestic Beer (0.5 liter bottle) 2.20 $ 1.65-3.00
Imported Beer (12 oz small bottle) 2.44 $ 1.81-3.75
Cigarettes 20 Pack (Marlboro) 11.26 $ 10.51-13.51
Transportation [ Edit ]
One-way Ticket (Local Transport) 2.44 $ 2.25-2.44
Monthly Pass (Regular Price) 109.81 $ 105.12-110.37
Taxi Start (Normal Tariff) 3.00 $ 2.44-3.57
Taxi 1 mile (Normal Tariff) 2.11 $ 2.11-3.02
Taxi 1hour Waiting (Normal Tariff) 23.30 $ 22.52-37.54
Gasoline (1 gallon) 3.40 $ 2.84-3.84
Volkswagen Golf 1.4 90 KW Trendline (Or Equivalent New Car) 18,770.57 $ 15,016.46-21,023.04
Toyota Corolla 1.6l 97kW Comfort (Or Equivalent New Car) 18,080.77 $ 14,265.64-21,023.04
Utilities (Monthly) [ Edit ]
Basic (Electricity, Heating, Cooling, Water, Garbage) for 915 sq ft Apartment 122.11 $ 60.07-195.21
1 min. of Prepaid Mobile Tariff Local (No Discounts or Plans) 0.27 $ 0.15-0.38
Internet (60 Mbps or More, Unlimited Data, Cable/ADSL) 50.68 $ 37.54-71.33
Sports And Leisure [ Edit ]
Fitness Club, Monthly Fee for 1 Adult 41.88 $ 26.28-60.07
Tennis Court Rent (1 Hour on Weekend) 22.87 $ 7.51-37.54
Cinema, International Release, 1 Seat 11.26 $ 9.76-12.76
Childcare [ Edit ]
Preschool (or Kindergarten), Full Day, Private, Monthly for 1 Child 1,128.78 $ 600.66-1,501.65
International Primary School, Yearly for 1 Child 16,623.69 $ 9,009.87-22,524.69
Clothing And Shoes [ Edit ]
1 Pair of Jeans (Levis 501 Or Similar) 50.42 $ 33.79-67.57
1 Summer Dress in a Chain Store (Zara, H&M, ...) 35.74 $ 22.52-56.31
1 Pair of Nike Running Shoes (Mid-Range) 83.02 $ 60.07-112.62
1 Pair of Men Leather Business Shoes 105.53 $ 67.57-150.16
Rent Per Month [ Edit ]
Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 1,536.61 $ 1,201.32-1,726.89
Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 1,206.17 $ 900.99-1,426.56
Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 2,659.31 $ 2,102.30-3,378.70
Apartment (3 bedrooms) Outside of Centre 1,974.08 $ 1,501.65-2,402.63
Buy Apartment Price [ Edit ]
Price per Square Feet to Buy Apartment in City Centre 717.61 $ 592.90-805.65
Price per Square Feet to Buy Apartment Outside of Centre 575.20 $ 441.48-697.53
Salaries And Financing [ Edit ]
Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax) 2,670.07 $
Mortgage Interest Rate in Percentages (%), Yearly, for 20 Years Fixed-Rate 3.75 2.25-3.45

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100 Comments so far

#Greg L on Mar 18, 2019 :
I am a boomer who barely finished high school, ended up with a 90K job, bought a house dirt cheap (200k), and inherited one from my mom (450k, my brother got the other half as we kicked out our sister from the inheritance). I spend lunch time laughing about renovicted tenants, telling people with masters and phds to enjoy their minimum salary, that having a house is a priviledge, that only few can enjoy, like being a md. So pay up or leave!
This city is for rich only. Thanks Toronto Council for creating this new social order, where the rich are the only ones who can enjoy themselves.
#Larry on Mar 17, 2019 :
If you move to Toronto, you're going to end up as a loony like this guy, Stephen O'Keefe, thinking that Toronto buses are molecular illusions and that there is a Jewish conspiracy in Toronto to rule Canada and the States:

Toronto is going to make you turn insane. The cost of living is extremely high, gender and racial politics create division, and if you're from Asia, you will be discriminated severely as Asians are not a protected class as Blacks as yet.
#Ben Aviv on Mar 14, 2019 :
Because ALL empowered Toronto women have to offer is their (STD ridden, roastie) genitals! That's why the cost of living is so high in Toronto compared to NYC or London, U.K.
#Anonymous on Mar 13, 2019 :
Toronto’s public joylessness extends well beyond the dating scene. Crowds at sporting events here are notorious throughout North America for their lack of emotion as are crowds at live shows. Even Toronto bands comment upon the dead rooms they often play to. The crossed arm-head nod-toe tap combo seems to be the accepted form at most festivals and shows. Be cool, don’t look like a fool.

Some Toronto dating tips that will make life more profitable:

1. Try to indicate the price you paid for your condo, year and make of car(s), approx. annual salary within the first 10 seconds of initiating a conversation.This will save at least a half hour of roundabout questioning aimed at discovering this information – should you be deemed worthy of further conversation. ( Note: DO NOT, under any circumstances, disclose the actual size of your condo.)
#Pat (born in Toronto) on Mar 06, 2019 :
Toronto is gone. It last existed in the 1990s.

It's clear Toronto is run by a few people who clearly aren't based in Toronto, just by how they basically give away the city, how there is complete disregard for city planning,infrastructure, transit, citizens, innovation, and just no real pride in the place. You could say this for all of Canada now too. Just not progressive or wanting to be. It really was meant to be Cleveland or Buffalo type of city, not bloated.

Toronto is now only for those coming from really troubled and desparate places and situations. It was not like this before the 1990s. One clue is the first-rate type of immigrants who settled in Toronto anytime before the 1990s. You will quickly notice the difference. If you are not in the refugee category, you are wasting your time (and savings). Traffic is an industry in Toronto, politics is an industry, immigration is an industry, political correctness and snowflakeism is a huge industry as well. Just a dysfunctional and eerie place. Don't bother.
#Jenny on Mar 04, 2019 :
This forum should be moderated to talk about cost of living in Toronto, not other unrelated and truly abhorrent topics.

The city is always on deficit, and the house hoarders do not want to pay more taxes, so all services are pooched as well as infrastructure.

For the soon-to-be-gone newcomers, the savings they bring ran through their fingers like water, with the insane prices for rent, insurance, food, and entertainment.

There fixation with money makes it impossible to have real friends, who are not looking for profit trying to push a pyramid scheme on you.

I have never seen so much talent wasted, as in Toronto. You can be a Harvard or Oxford graduate, and a property hoarder manager will do everything to impede you from getting a good pay. Good pay is not good anymore, as 80K barely pays for a one bedroom downtown.
#Amanda on Feb 28, 2019 :
You're not fooling us James Sears a.k.a. DMITRI the RAPIST

Your carefully worded veiled threats against women and Jews, your writing style and your hatred towards Lisa Kinsella proves that you are the one posting these hate threats against women.

You are going to jail after your hearing in May. Posting more hate speech will only give you a longer sentence.
#Elliot Fraser on Feb 25, 2019 :
Toronto is unreasonably overvalued. Awful weather, failing infrastructure, and low quality education. Waitlists for healthcare and anything of use. Who wants to pay 3000 a month in rent, to live with the people who makes the comments below?
#Ken Roberts on Feb 19, 2019 :
Toronto has a housing crisis due to its un-affordability. There was a picture in NOW magazine, which showed tents at -20 Celsius, falling infrastructure, and the ghost luxury town of Fort York, were few live but the ultra-rich keep as empty piggy banks. Often, those condos are obtained with illegal funds, which the politicians, liberals and conservatives alike, wallow over dirty cash money, which often came from the sale of Opioids. It is not Vancouver anymore, Toronto too.

They all know about it, they are just waiting until societal collapse, to leave the problem to the opposition. By the time it happens, they will be in Switzerland for all we know.
#Dan Rodgers on Feb 14, 2019 :
Is there any moderators are there to keep this conversation back on track?
Cost in Toronto. Unaffordable. Even New Yorkers cannot afford it:

The salaries are low, they were trying to lure amazon by saying how little they pay skilled work. Un-skilled work is abundant, if you are willing to commute 3 hours each way to live in a basement.

Please enter real prices, the ones shown here are on the low side.
#Psychic on Feb 08, 2019 :
Are sheeple afraid of what Marc Lepine has to say from the spiritual realm? My comment was deleted by someone who fears the truth of what Marc Lepine might say regarding Canadian women.
#Anonymous on Feb 08, 2019 :
Social Media & Feminism have COMPLETELY destroyed women here. Can't wait to save up and get the hell out.
#Mabel Stone on Feb 07, 2019 :
The Ford government will make it easier for landlords to evict people, in the name of profit. This city is already un-affordable, and the kleptocracy is making it worse.
People are stuck with no options. If you plan on coming, have a 200,000 salary with an unbreakable contract or 1,000,000 cash, get informed. You will be living with some of the people making comments below, and paying a premium for that. The entertainment is expensive and crappy, so is housing.
Spread the voice, there is no decent 1 bedroom in Toronto for 1600, and car insurance can be anything from 2000 a year to 5000.
People paying 1500 for a basement with Radon is not normal. This city is out of control.
#Psychic on Feb 06, 2019 :
Marc Lepine is living in the 7th realm of the Spirit world. He was sent by God to send a few man-hating feminists to Hell.

There is life after death. What else is worse than living in a feminist city filled with negative and Satanic women, especially where these negative energies are higher on campuses and feminist incubators?

Those 14 feminists that Marc Lepine supposedly 'murdered', they are rotting in hell and being given severe punishment for hating men and pushing innocent men like Marc Lepine to fight back against the Canadian feminist empire.

I have proof that Marc Lepine is in heaven, and the feminists that he murdered are rotting in hell.
#Anonymous on Feb 04, 2019 :
@#M. Browne: Who the eff are you to dictate what is acceptable speech? FYI that feminist carpet muncher Wynne was kicked out of elections and conservatives are ruling Ontario.

Free speech is supported by Doug Ford, and none of us have said anything hateful or illegal. Just stating the facts you government trollololol working for the City of Toronto.

One of these days, you Toronto elites will disenfranchise so many men that white men will tear down every overpriced condo that they previously built for you feminists and homos.
#Anonymous on Feb 04, 2019 :
@M. Browne
If you're going to send people to Ottawa, perhaps you could send them to Montreal as well since it's less expensive than the former and it's a big city. Oh wait? You have to learn French to get access to the jobs there and it's from the most disliked province in Canada, nevermind then.

I doubt 96 murders in 2018 is considered safe among the big cities and it would most likely get worse if the Toronto politicians don't take care of the well-beings of their citizens instead of focusing of being in a global city.
#Clark Kent on Feb 03, 2019 :
Toronto certainly is "safe" in the most sterile sense
But this comes with a total lack of culture
#M. Browne on Feb 03, 2019 :
Bitter-Misogynistic-Toronto-Bashers you forgot one thing: Toronto is one of the safest big cities in the world in which to live and raise your precious family. There is a price attached to that.

The COL list above is representative of what it costs to live in Toronto so believe what you are seeing. That being said, consider one of the nearby smaller and mid-sized cities in the "Nearby Cities" list above to start out. If you can go further afield, check out these affordable smaller and mid-sized cities in Ontario that would welcome new blood: Barrie, Orillia, London, Windsor, Fort Erie, Niagara, Belleville, Kingston, Ottawa, Smith Fall or Brockville. Our population is aging. Despite some comments below, you are welcome as long as you understand that you will be starting over here like all immigrants do, my family included.

Numbeo, I am disappointed that you are not protecting your data better. It is accurate, but nasty comments are spoiling your reputation.
#Luis Lopez on Feb 01, 2019 :
Attention aspiring migrants to Toronto Ontario, Canada:

The cost of living on this website is outdated and deliberate misleading.
Salaries are lower than $3,000 a month on average.

When you arrive here, the employers care not one grain of rice if you were a doctor or lawyer in your country, and you will have to compete with millions of other Canadians, newcomers and foreign students for toilet cleaning and cashier jobs. Even for those jobs you have to train and study for the fields and complete resumes and cover letters.

More and more Canadians are also becoming bigoted that they will think you are taking away their jobs when you have to beg on your knees for a toilet cleaning job for the (((job agency))). (((They))) will make you lift over 100lbs and if you ever get hurt on the job, getting disability is very hard and requires tons of paperwork.

Meanwhile, the Liberals get their social science and gender studies degrees and bank 6-figure salaries because they work for the government. These autocrats will brainwash your wives and daughters to become same-sex supporters and hate men like you. Canada is a "feminist" country ruled by (((a few families))).

If (((they))) are not invading your country, and your country is stable, DON'T. COME. HERE.
Employers will not hire you, not even for a toilet cleaning job unless you gain some "Canadian experience" by jumping through hoops.

Also, the rural areas of Canada are hostile to outsiders that one can end up getting hurt badly or killed by supremacist groups.

Canada is HELL for educated immigrants.
#Yakov on Jan 29, 2019 :
I attended a meeting with Adam Vaughan where the "housing advocate" was going to talk about this pressing issue. He wasted all the time debating with entitled boomers about jets in toronto island. At the end, he said they will be investing money for affordable housing. Yet, after all their "action", the refugees that trudeau invited were housed in hotels, due to lack of the aforementioned. They were housed for free, by the way, while I spent almost all my income on rent.
Housing is considered unaffordable if it's more than 30%. The incompetent politicians do not account for net income, once taxes and all the other goodies for a future that might not happen are deducted. Some people are paying up to 60-80% of their net income after taxes and goodies on crappy housing only. There are tens, if not hundreds of thousands of empty houses downtown. Look at fort york spadina, it's a social desert with pockets of asian-canadians (they are not foreign, they have passports) driving high end cars. Yet, some of them get subsidies because they declare 0 world income.
If someone has a million dollar condo/house, they should not be allowed to declare 0 dollars as income, period.
Toronto is less safe, unliveable, and less interesting. There is no social cohesion, and services are grinding to a halt to the crowded, overworked, and angry masses.
As one article put it, the Toronto syndrome is bringing people for a lifestyle that they are helping destroy.
#Anonymous on Jan 26, 2019 :
"Justin Trudeau is going to import 500,000 more immigrants every year until he's booted from office, and rent prices, homelessness and incels will only increase."

The incel thing is really interesting.
Feminists keep pushing this idea that women and men are the same, but clearly the women are not interested in dating the men who have been disenfranchised in their own cities.
In contrast, how many men would date a woman who is struggling financially but would nonetheless care for him?

The whole thing is a farce.
Without non-stop immigration none of this would be sustainable.
#Tory Pump on Jan 26, 2019 :
Toronto is a heaven for the landlords because they can hike rental prices and tenants can't complain or else be forced onto the streets.

The major issue is that SJW politics have discriminated against straight white men and feminist groups are taking jobs away from qualified applicants because of gender.

Working 80+ hours a week in a factory will not pay the rent, food and living expenses in a slum area of Toronto. Rent for a 1-bedroom in a crime free area will cost you around $2,500+ utilities these days. Renting downtown condos start from $4,000+ these days.

Jane & Finch (the Bronx of Toronto) apartments start from $1,650+ utilities these days. It's costly to live in a SJW feminist city.

Justin Trudeau is going to import 500,000 more immigrants every year until he's booted from office, and rent prices, homelessness and incels will only increase.
#Clark Kent on Jan 25, 2019 :

I don't know if the extortion racket will end but you describe the situation perfectly.
Toronto, and Canada more broadly, no longer has to be loyal to any of its constituencies.
The genius of modern liberalism is that it can replace its population if the social experiments don't work out too well.

"Oh, the population can't afford to have children? No problem! We can just bring in a new population!"
"Oh, the population can't live well because things are too expensive? No problem! We can just bring in people who are used to living in squalor!"

It's brilliant really.
But people can get by on credit so I think many just don't realize how poor they really are.
#Mel Wisemann on Jan 25, 2019 :
Toronto abandons its middle class people to the endless greed that absorbs all earnings in rent.
Read the article, men and women are one tragedy away from sleeping under a bridge at -30 Celsius.
They "solve" the problem by bringing more people and making them struggle to survive. Rent money feeds a vicious cycle of landlords who buy more property to extract more resources.
If you are an "investor", cash out, this extortion is about to end.
#Anonymous on Jan 23, 2019 :
The Liberals are building affordable housing for women only. Men will have to die on the streets:

This is feminist oppression against men. If you're a straight white male, and complain of the Liberal government, the doctor will have police destroy your property, liberty and eventually your life:
#Adam on Jan 22, 2019 :
@ Anonymous:
This only shows how feminists are waging war against men by tossing their resumes into the trash bin for a feminist agenda.
I know of Bachelor degree graduates who turned into Management earning mid 200k salaries within 10 years, because they are women. This is Toronto, a city for women, and we wonder why a growing number of men are going postal or using vans as instruments of terror.
#Severo on Jan 22, 2019 :
Toronto is Severely Un-affordable.
The prices here in Numbeo are low, so please if you live here, encourage others to provide their feedback so these numbers are adjusted with reality. 2300 for a one bedroom, when they want to pay 14/hour regardless of your PhD from Harvard. Your manager will have a high school degree usually, and keep you down because he can.
At -20 C, you'll be spending all your money and borrowing to keep warm, fed with fertilizer/pesticides laden food, and angry people.
Toronto is a lonely and severely un-affordable place. Not worth it.
#Anonymous on Jan 21, 2019 :

Yeah Toronto is a real head-scratcher man
Been on a job search literally for a year at this point
How the hell does a Masters level educated person get a job that pays the rent here?
#Adam on Jan 17, 2019 :
@Dante: Toronto feminists are rejecting male applicants for even dead-end jobs, as some have alleged here.

Toronto Feminists are waging economic war on men that even getting a $14/hr job is out of the picture. They are doing this to attack men. Toronto defies economic, moral & social sense.
#Whut on Jan 16, 2019 :
@Anonymous That's the thing.

Thy don't want a man. They want a prince charming.

So... Sucks for them. :)

I know who I am and if that doesn't serve them...

Whatever, they can end in the bargain bin for all I care.
#Adam on Jan 16, 2019 :
Toronto is where you find no love, only a homicidal or suicidal desire because of the toxic culture. The woe-men there are feminist.
#Anonymous on Jan 16, 2019 :
@Whut touches on something -- the main problem around here is that with the amount of fat, dyed hair feminists walking around, the dating pool for straight men is immeasurably shrunk. It's most men competing for the same women (women who, even if slighlty above average attractiveness still have thousands of instagram followers and hyper-inflated egoes). Recipe for disaster.
#Whut on Jan 15, 2019 :
It's always retarded people saying what they want to say, without fearing for any repercursions because they are behind a black computer screen.

Life's short people. Maybe somedays you can wake up dead and not notice it.

Enjoy your life more without creating wars over nothing.

But what I'm saying... I'm trying to appeal to a bunch of fat women who dye their hairs purple or red and a bunch of awkward dudes who keep replying to them.

What a joke.
#Whut on Jan 15, 2019 :
No matter where I go, there is always this shitty debate.
#Union on Jan 15, 2019 :
A very important cost of living, is insurance, car specially. Toronto is particularly costly in this area. I am not sure why numbeo has omitted that, but if they do include it, Toronto would rank much higher as a costly city, specially considering the low wages.
I know people who, for being newcomers, have to pay 450 Canadian dollars a month for car insurance, while making 14 an hour.

On a separate note, Where are the moderators?
#Anonymous on Jan 13, 2019 :
The following website lays out very well the reality of living here...
#Albertan on Jan 13, 2019 :
The F-e-m-inist is your enemy. She will falsely accuse you of crimes against her person, and you will get expelled from campus and your job. She will make you homeless and jobless. This is the current gender war of Toronto.

F-e-m-inists are going to push for more anti-male laws, that Marc Lepine would look like a school boy compared to what brave man will fight and combat the fempire of Toronto.
#Anonymous on Jan 10, 2019 :
city is made for woman and wealthy, if your attractive you will have fun social life otherwise toronto will be the worse hell you can ever imagine.
#Ronnie on Jan 10, 2019 :
The high cost of living has affected everyone in a very noticeable way. Those who hoard property are angry that they are not selling as many houses to naive people for fortunes that the dumps they sell would not command in any city where reason still prevails. They have stratospheric expectations, dreaming about meeting not millionares, but billionares, and lead miserably lonely lives.
Then there are those who struggle to scratch a barely tolerable living, giving away most of their salaries to extortionist landlords of transportation costs that in other cities are used for personal growth and entertainment.
Read the comments below, you'll be spending a lot of money to live among angry people who will very likely hate you.
#Dundas on Jan 08, 2019 :
Erin Pizzey did a speech at UofT and declared that Canada is currently the most frightening country she's been to and she has to consume anti-paranoid pills. She must be referring to Toronto, which is worse than her declarations.
Toronto feminists have been cockblocking men into paid work, likely because many MGTOW keep bragging how they will work and save enough to retire in Costa Rica.
At the end of the day, feminists from Toronto will lose the war.
They can't actually be discriminating against young men from paid work and forcing them to sleep on the streets. This is a recipe for disaster and a Yellow Vest revolution.
#Anonymous on Jan 08, 2019 :
Damn, after reading these comments and hearing the complaints from people in real life, maybe there is something to that Roosh article about Toronto being terrible for dating (can confirm too)
#Anonymous on Jan 07, 2019 :

Fuck Toronto feminists!

May God bring Alek Minassian to finish off what he started!

Toronto is a feminist hellhole and shithole for straight males!




#Ralph Welch on Jan 07, 2019 :
Forum Moderators, where are you?

To those theories about Russian bots, the logic is not sound. They would not shoot themselves on their feet, because there are many "investors" who own large swathes of Fort York. I know some of them.

The cost of living in Toronto can spiral out of control very easily, unless you are rich, well connected, and entitled. The average salary does not cover basic rent in a downtown location, and the further you have to commute, the lower your quality of life.

I have attended theater shows, operas, hockey games, baseball, soccer, TIFF, and they were all dissapointments. Yet, they dare to ask for 200 dollars for a hockey game of a team that has not win since more than half a century ago.

This city is like an egomaniac who wants to make-believe it is a heavyweight, when in reality, it's at best a mediocre city. The housing mania is reaching the heights of the tulip mania, and I would like to see all those 25 year old investors (who defend and depend real estate more than they would their own family) find real jobs when the bubble bursts.

Avoid Toronto if you don't have a job that pays 140,000 CAD, and 1,000,000 CAD to buy a sheet rock mcmansion. It is too costly and does not offer much.
#Anonymous on Jan 06, 2019 :
#Lisa Olsen on Jan 05, 2019 :
For those of you reading, disregard the misogynistic comments as they are made by one person, Clark Kent. He's a Russian bot.
#Charlie Wilton on Jan 04, 2019 :
I believe the comments about difficulties with dating/relationships/interaction between the sexes belong more on the quality of life of Toronto rather than in this section, which is about cost.

Toronto was cheap 30 years ago, because the location is horrible. It's a frozen city with almost no quality indoor entertainment during the winter, and over-priced activities during the summer. It is far away from real world class cities like Montreal or New York, where people actually go to for vacation, not here.

There are cleaners who will have a better quality of life than researchers, just because they inherited a house and the costs of owning one are minimal (200-300 dollars a month for maintenance and taxes, as opposed to 2000-2800 a month for rent).

Toronto needs baristas, cashiers, and straw-men security guards, all of them get paid 14/hour. If that is what you want to do with your life, come here with your degrees in engineering, medicine, or science, and live in debt, loneliness and instability. If you develop any kind of addiction or incapacitating disease, you will be sleeping on the streets at -20 Celsius, or being beaten up or killed without anyone taking notice. The hotels are rented for some government approved refugees though, and Centennial college dormitories.

The most important thing is to speak up, tell everyone the reality about this city, it is not worth your talent and it will never compensate your efforts.
#Arthur on Jan 04, 2019 :
Canada is getting worse, that a former Ryerson University student who was arrested because of a feminist doctor has now started a Yellow Vest movement:
I wouldn't cast any judgement on him as he sought medical advice from a female doc at Ryerson, and instead was arrested on campus, sent to a hospital for evaluation, released without charge, and a few days later, the female doc sends her own police, York Regional Police, to arrest the poor fella at his ex-wife's home in Toronto.

His wife divorced him because of the police issues.

Toronto has destroyed men such as Steve Katsikaris, and once they are making men lose everything, they have not a thing to lose, and this results in angry men wearing Yellow Vests.

The comical thing is that many of the normies will accuse Steve Katsikaris of being a Russian bot,incel or virgin, but he was married and how wife let him because of a Toronto femoid doctor who sent police to harass him and his family. His ex-wife feared for her life.
#Clark Kent on Jan 03, 2019 :

I'm just curious if you actually think that the people frustrated with the current trajectory of Toronto, and I suppose more broadly, the West, are all just "Russian bots"

I don't mean to be rude but do people out there actually believe that the Russians created text-messaging web-applications specifically to talk about the problems facing the working and middle classes in the West? And that working class and middle class people simply have no interests or concerns of their own? That without the high-tech intervention of "russian bots", no one would have anything to say?

I've seen people talk about this with relation to the US election but has it not dawned on liberals that there are lots of frustrated people in their countries? Aren't liberals supposed to be the "compassionate" and "educated" ones? How can you guys look at all the economic, social, cultural, and historical problems occurring in the West and conclude that it's all just Russian bots trying to confuse people?

All those university graduates with 40k in student loan debt and no job... are they all just Russian bots? Like seriously is this the level liberals are operating on?
#Anonymous on Jan 03, 2019 :
The level of dissatification with life in Toronto seems to be huge. There isn't a single other city on this site which attracts such (justifiable) negative comments.
#Jamie Lesley on Jan 03, 2019 :
It is no longer the case that you can move to Toronto, find a two jobs, and a quality of life. I am speaking from experience. The wage increases have stagnated for the last 10 years, while the house/rental prices have skyrocketed.
The more you work, the more you are taxed. Infrastructure is decaying, there is a drug crisis so bad that you can see needles on Queen and Spadina's floor, as well as people shooting up.
Employers do not care about workers, workers are easily replaceable (by incompetent new people, but replaceable nevertheless).
There are basements for which no radon testing has been done, that are being rented out for the price of a two bedroom downtown in Montreal. I was looking for a rental recently and was horrified with the stench of the places they were asking 2000 CAD a month for.
If you have two average jobs, you are talking about 80,000 a year, which turns into 3600 a month after taxes and pension and all that. 3600-2000-1000(250 a week for groceries)-150 (public transportation)-150 (Internet and phone)- 500 (clothes, toiletries, entertainment twice a month) and you are looking at borrowing 200 dollars each month to live.
People are lonely and angry. Inequality brings out the worst of mankind, and Toronto was already famous for being filled with mean people.
Everybody is trying to take advantage of everybody. I was renting a place for 10 years, and got reno-evicted in the middle of the rental crisis. No remorse, no loyalty from the landlord.
Daycare costs half of your salary if you happen to have a job, which you will need if you are not a permanent resident. Rent costs the other half. Then you need to struggle to find money to eat.

Don't ruin your life. Don't come/stay in the most unaffordable city of Ontario.
#Anonymous on Jan 03, 2019 :
Toronto is a bland, unexceptional place.

People are generally polite, although very guarded, cold and unfriendly. I have lived in several cities around the world which are bigger than Toronto, and found the people much, much friendlier than here.

Most of my friends here i have met through my wife, who is Canadian. I can imagine that it would be a lonely place for a single migrant.

Cost of living is very high, and you don't get much in return for it.
Hard to get decent work without "Canadian experience". You will find plenty of engineers and highly qualified migrants driving taxis or working in Tim Hortons.

Honestly, if you have any sort of decent life in your home country i would advise against moving here.

I'm leaving in a few months and couldn't be happier to get out.
#Potential on Jan 03, 2019 :
Interesting how astroturfed and one-sided the comments on this site are. I guess the Russian trolls are trying to stir up shit in Canada now, too?
#Josh on Jan 01, 2019 :
@ Garcia Is death the only way for persecuted men to leave Toronto & their terrible and litigious paper terorists masquerading as women? A misandry version of hotel California?
#Logan on Dec 27, 2018 :
Susan, if everyone who isn't as rich as Doug Ford, Justin Trudeau, or John Tory moves out of the city, who will serve your coffee and protect you from the inevitable incel uprising?
The political climate of Toronto is placing men into poverty through reverse discrimination on the job market.

It's only because Trudeau forced companies to hire women, mostly privileged class of Canadian women, that you're here posting anti-poor rants.

It's getting harder and harder to survive in Toronto when one has to earn over $3,000 a month to be called back for an application to rent a slummy apartment.

I wonder what does the government do to homeless men? There are lots of homeless men panhandling in downtown Toronto, but what happens when the police rounds up these homeless men to hide the economic malaise of Toronto?
#Susan on Dec 25, 2018 :
If you’re poor don’t live in Toronto
#Walt Ruthers on Dec 24, 2018 :
Merry Christmas/happy holidays can only be afforded by home owners who extortionate renters out of their livelihoods in Toronto. I'll be working all day, just to pay debt. This city is a debt prison for the working poor, no matter how educated, talented, or skilled you are, you will be accountable for the crime of not being born with a silver homeowner key on your paw.

You work more, they tax you more.

Planning to come here? If you don't have over a million dollars cash, you will regret it and wish Christmas/all other celebrations are over fast, so you don't have to endure them. Mark my words.
#Anthony Souza on Dec 23, 2018 :
"I cannot afford to fly out of this horror even though I worked in a prestigious hospital downtown."

If there was a place on earth where Hell can be described while the devils of gayness and feminism rule with an iron fist, it's Toronto.

Men, think hard before moving to Toronto. It will be too late when you realize how shitty this city is and how fucked up social relations are in this city.

Don't be that homeless man who ends up back in Toronto after hitchhiking past the city boundaries. It could be you once you end up penniless by a feminist policy or feminist accusation that costs you your job &/or freedom.
#Anonymous on Dec 22, 2018 :
Toronto will become the 24th most crowded city in the world ...
The report estimates that Toronto's population will grow to 6,682,061 by 2025. That means the city's population will increase by 59.2% in a single generation. As a result, the amount of people living per square mile in this city will grow to 7,567—in contrast, Toronto had a population density of 4,753 people per square mile in 1995.
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#Lexus on Dec 21, 2018 :
Innocent before proven guilty, and you should be allowed to provide evidence to prove your guilt.

Thanks to Canuck feminists, whose fathers make them safe.

Canadian men are screwed. Now ordinarily I would recommend that they buy a tiny camera, but those are now banned too, in the courts at least, along with emails. The feminist judge needs to make sure you don't have a case.

Canadian men, you're screwed.
#Jeanette on Dec 21, 2018 :
Toronto was famous across Canada for having the meanest people. Now, inequality has exacerbated and magnified the rude interactions among people. The rich are angry because the real estate prices stopped climbing 20%. The poor are angry because of the cuts to welfare. The middle is working themselves to the ground trying to afford rent in a crappy, small place with broken elevators, or wasting their lives away commuting.
This city is not worthy of your talent, time nor money.
Entertainment is expensive and kitsch.
Location is bad, as you'll freeze for 6 months or more out of the year.
Neighborhoods are getting worse with gun violence and drug addiction/overdoses.
There is no safety network, one missed step and you are out of the city or on the streets.
There are no friends, if you get sick you are on your own (everyone is too busy or has last minute plans) to drag yourself across the floor and wait for 10 hours in the emergency room.
People literally die alone and no one notices, because everyone is so obsessed about money they prefer it over friendship or relationships, buy money does not take you to the emergency room on its own. A lady died in our building and it was days before they found it. She was mean, and no one cared about her. The government took her apartment. They like it when people are lonely because that means more assets for them.
I will spend Christmas alone because of nasty people who would not approve a vacation, because a new person got hers. I cannot afford to fly out of this horror even though I worked in a prestigious hospital downtown.
#Schiff on Dec 20, 2018 :
Wrong place at wrong time, or future of feminism?
#Anonymous on Dec 20, 2018 :
Toronto is a place where people 50k in student debt, with no boyfriend or girlfriend, and no outlook for a real career will tell you that this is the best that life has ever been and that Toronto is the greatest city on Earth

is there a way to escape this torrent of femenist hell?
#Anonymous on Dec 19, 2018 :
Toronto is a place where people 50k in student debt, with no boyfriend or girlfriend, and no outlook for a real career will tell you that this is the best that life has ever been and that Toronto is the greatest city on Earth

It's like living in a mental asylum
#Torontoist on Dec 19, 2018 :
Toronto is like a KIA rio with rolls royce price. Totally overpriced. People look at each other's wallets before looking into their eyes. It is the top city for inequality, traffic, outrageous housing costs, and social issues. This is where you see a man injecting himself drugs in front of a downtown Hilton.
#Anonymous on Dec 18, 2018 :
Toronto harpies can falsely accuse you of rape, and you as a man have no way to defend yourself from prison:
#Suits on Dec 17, 2018 :
@ Derek:
You can thank feminism and the bankers for turning Toronto into an intellectual slave plantation where no one is allowed to challenge the status quo.

This is why the wealthy elites who sleep soundly in their Rosedale and Bridle Path mansions pay mercenaries like Antifa and Chanty Binx to divide genders because before all of this feminist culture that has taken over Toronto, the alternative social groups were protesting against corporations, the Toronto elite and Canada's version of Occupy Wall St.

Kathleen Wynne, a social liberal of convenience (funding for LGBTQ and feminism while doing austerity on the poor and working class), enacted severe anti-male laws which turned Toronto from the club Mecca of the 90s into a feminist and anti-sex shithole where men and women aren't allowed to party.

It doesn't help the fact that conservative mayor of Toronto, John Tory, a large shareholder of Rogers Media Inc, directed CP24 news to smear the name of PUA activist Roosh V, calling him a "rape promoter" and instilling fear in women that this Moslem vagabond will teach Canadian men how to rape women; how isn't that racism is beyond my comprehension.

Toronto is a city where it's taboo to complain of foreign money launderers, but okay for Toronto women to lie about rape to police and have innocent and law-abiding men charged and locked up in prison for a long time. These same women will not complain if Bronfman or one of the Bay St. elites raped them and murdered their unborn infant a few months after wouldn't they?!
#Derek on Dec 17, 2018 :
Cost of living in Toronto is not justified by the poor quality of life that it offers. No one comes here to party, even the locals who are house poor get out to have fun.
#Anonymous on Dec 17, 2018 :
YOU GO GRRLLLL! If Chanty Binx and the rest of her feminist crew can get this:

Sucks to be a femoid sloot who can afford breast implants while thousands of men are discriminated for jobs because of Trudeau's foreign and feminist policy.

Femoids of Toronto are willing to get CANCER, SICKNESS, AND UNCURABLE DISEASE to entice rich men and young boys!

Toronto womyn and femoids are fucking shit. I pray for the day that the fempire of Toronto collapses, along with CBC funding that demonizes men.
#Tony Garcia on Dec 14, 2018 :
@Brett Lou:
I know what you're sayin.
I attended that uni when that Big Red monster was shutting down mens rights activists.
My life was a living hell there.
One night, I overdosed on opiods at a club, and I felt my self leave my physical body. I was floating from the room, and I thought that I'm finally FREE from this mental BONDAGE of femi-Nazi hell Toronto life.
I felt happiness, joy and freedom from the feminist totalitarian state called Toronto and Canada.
I woke up in a hospital and the angry look on the nurse's face made me wish that I OD'd in the forest during a wind chill warning.
Where am I you ask?
I saved enough cash and left that sick, depraved and feminist gestapo city once I had the chance.
Toronto and Canada are going towards a perverse form of Communism and crony capitalism wearing panties. The future is bleak for young men there.
#Bart Rodgers on Dec 14, 2018 :
Toronto costs more money than what you will be paid for your long hours of unappreciated work. There are so many workers, you can be replaced in a heartbeat, they know it, and they show it.
If you are not here yet, you will need to come with 10,000 usd to start with. You might spend that in four months of living here, if you want to live a little, or in 8 months if you choose a spider infested basement apartment, with no natural light and a horrid smell. Landlords are awful, some of them have no consideration for human rights, and your only choice, is to go live on the streets. They know it, they show it.
All the pretty things cost 10 times more than in the USA. You need a salary like Meng Wanzhou (billionaire with two empty houses in Vancouver before her bail was granted, now she has one empty house in Vancouver).
Save yourself some excruciating pain, get those 10,000 and go to a real world class city or take a nice vacation instead.
#Rude Boy on Dec 11, 2018 :
Read Roosh's post about why Toronto sucks, I believe we have the most members of any other city in the world on this forum. Not one Torontonian has disputed what Roosh wrote, so there is no catch.
There are several threads about Toronto which tell how bad the situation is by people who are living here in the trenches.
The good thing about having a diverse population is that we have many good restaurants which showcase food from all over the world. Toronto is a very multi-cultural city but people generally live in certain neighourhoods with people of a similar background.
As a city Toronto has a great standard of living, the women are spoilt for choice. Men, date down and I would say you need flawless game to get by.
On a personal note, Roosh wrote about how Toronto women think they are cool. I was in a club the other day and some chick was telling me how "cool" she was, I replied that she seemed nerdy. The look on her face was priceless and she stormed off.
That same night I was laughing to myself as I saw these white girls dancing to some Drake song thinking they were cool.
In regards to Interracial couples, in the USA it still seems taboo and they are a bit behind Canada in this regard.
As for moving here, you must be crazy. Even if you can earn great money here it does not seem to matter much, I know guys from all walks of life and they ALL complain about the social aspect. The guys that don't complain are few or either beta chumps that are letting women walk all over them, I know loads of guys that fall into this category.
#Jake on Dec 11, 2018 :
no idea why people want to come here. Cost of living is high, not just housing and rent but even food too! Average salary is low compare to major U.S. cities. Winter is brutal cold and instead of a beach you get a dirty cold lake. Its too late for me to get out, but save yourself and dont come here!
#Anonymous on Dec 09, 2018 :
It's 3AM and I'm standing at the door of McDonalds HOMELESS in the freezing cold!!!!
I'm at the Yonge St.& Dundas area seeking shelter, but nearly every one is for women and their dogs that they fuck on the down low.

A woman falsely accused me of sexual harassment earlier this year, and I was fired without notice. I can't find a job up to now because not only do employers refuse to hire homeless men, but they are forced by Justin Trudeau to hire women, and the social worker thinks I'm scamming the system when I'M FUCKING HOMELESS and have to watch my ass before a fucking homo tries to rape me!

Evan Stone
Bsc, University of Toronto.
#Eric Gucci on Dec 04, 2018 :
@ Yuen Wang:
Toronto has completely ruined my life as a straight man.Wome here deny me jobs for factories or general labour.

Justina Trudeau is sending hundreds of millions for feminists, while the taxpayer foots the bills with future austerity cuts.Toronto is the city that is a LIVING HELL.

I'm without a job for 8 months and counting; many of the hiring managers, women, don't want to hire me. This also was the case with some of my friends who lost their jobs in the 2015 recession and up to this day, can't find a job.

Toronto is discriminating against men for feminists.

The Muslim Marc Lepine must have foresaw the consequences of early feminism, which could explain why he murdered those feminists.
#Yuen Wang on Dec 04, 2018 :
Toronto is very affordable, if you have a duffel bag filled with money, like the people in this article:

If you don't, prepare to use your PhD knowledge (regardless of the area of study, Medical Doctor, Engineer, Lawyer) for preparing the most awesome lattes with great artwork. There's an overflow of professionals, so everyone gets a sharp pencil to fend off the others for the lowest salary possible. A great race to the bottom. Underemployment is the new key-word.

Your hard work is needed to pay for the pensions of those who didn't study beyond high-school, retired early, weren't that productive, but now are paper millionaires. Those who don't retire are super-nasty, and immune to the respect and civility courses. One of them said his age gave him the right to be sarcastic and toxic.

Fort York neighborhood is hollowed out by speculators. But don't worry, the government is looking into it. By 2030 they'll do something about it. Toronto will cost you all your income, your energy, your health, and your time. You'll get experience in return, and the beautiful bragging rights of living in this city. That's it.
#Anonymous on Dec 03, 2018 :
My personal reason is that alot of people have been sued or charged for sexual harassment or things like that for approaching a girl. I’ve even heard of people getting charged for just telling a girl she’s pretty. Personally that’s what makes me keep to myself in public. Not sure if this is a reason for most of us in Toronto
#Jason on Dec 03, 2018 :
Toronto. If you don't work a high-paying job that pays at least C$300,000+ annually, do drug dealing and credit card scams, or don't display any signs of affluence, Toronto women, and the majority of them, don't want anything to do with you.

You heard me---If you only approach or try to talk with the banshees you call a Toronto womyn, she will send her hired men in guns such as the police or her pimps to use violence against you.

On one side, Toronto has a culture of corporate mafia culture, and the other side is the criminal elements of drug dealing , pimping organized crime and money laundering; and Toronto womyn only want a white collar criminal or drug dealer as a bf.
#wtf on Nov 30, 2018 :
completed my master's degree and i can't even get a fucking interview one year later

how am i not supposed to think the job market in toronto is all based on nepotism?
#TOGuy on Nov 29, 2018 :
TO is a shithole nowadays. Don't live here.
#Andy Griffin on Nov 29, 2018 :
Toronto LGBTQ+XYZ should get this sort of punishment for being feminist whores. Brazil has it right:
#Canada Human Rights Exposed on Nov 27, 2018 :
Notwithstandingly, the Fred Victor staff were concerned about me staying at their shelter and also reporting on their activities. Those complaints that had involved me, directly, I had also reported to the Shelter, Support and Housing Administration and they all went to Brad Boucher, who had so much sided with the corruption of the Fred Victor shelter staff and management, that he also claimed that he had approved them restricting me from its shelters, for longer than six months. Keep in mind that under the Toronto Shelter Standards, restricting a resident from the use of an emergency shelter for longer than three months, required that the moved be approved by those in the Shelter Support and Housing Administration.

Brad Boucher, then as now, acted corruptly to cover up the actions of the Fred Victor Centre staff, who have acted inappropriately, either towards the residents, or in carrying out their duties, as shelter staff.

Fast forward to today, and Brad Boucher is still saying that the Fred Victor Centre is justified in refusing me any assistance, some five years going on six years down the road, for reporting on them, then and also recently. In his email to me yesterday, he claimed that the Fred Victor Centre staff view my ongoing reports about them as harassment and therefore I am being banned from their shelters. And for what now seem as an indefinite period. The problem with this decision is that it goes against Shelter Standards guidelines.

Unless the resident has made a direct threat, or his behavior is threatening in some ways, (that is could caused physical harm to someone), or has been violent towards the staff, then that resident also have a right to use the services of the housing provider, who is also under contract with the City of Toronto (a corporation).

Exercising one's right to freedom of speech by reporting about the staff's inappropriate conduct, should not be viewed as a harassment of the staff. Neither should a resident who has made complaints about Fred Victor Centre shelter staff, be considered as harassing the staff, at the time of the complaints, some six years ago.
#Reliance Desjardins on Nov 23, 2018 :
Great efforts will be made to teach children and their virtue-signaling parents to trust those who are most dangerous to children: homosexuals and transsexuals. In effect, grooming will be institutionalized on a national scale.

A good example is the Drag Queen Story Hour program that has disgusting drag queens read to children in public libraries. The effect of this program, which is funded by taxpayers and globalist groups, is to teach children that sexual deviants are safe and should be trusted. Many parents are actually paying money to increase the chances that their children will be molested.

No wonder Roosh V was viciously smeared in Canada...Toronto is a heaven for feminists, lesbians, trannies, pedophiles and probably they are all child rapists, but if a straight male is accused of offending a woman, it's treated as a crime worse than terrorism. That's Toronto for ya! Homosexual prison state.
#Scott on Nov 20, 2018 :
@ Anonymous:
What conspiracy theory?
Toronto womyn are that terrible bro.
#Jamie Optimist on Nov 20, 2018 :
Toronto's wages have stagnated, which makes this city unaffordable. They say there's a housing shortage, but if you go to and check for rooms over 2400, there's a bonanza. Who can afford those prices with a PhD getting paid 15 or 20 an hour?
You need 4 full time jobs. Do the math before you come.
#Anonymous on Nov 20, 2018 :
What the fuck is wrong with you people.
There are people here actually trying to do research and you're posting this conspiracy theory shit? Come on.
#Tom on Nov 19, 2018 :
Don't get involved with the toxic social culture. Find a way to earn some cash, save, and then find an escape plan...unfortunately, the feminists have tightened loopholes that by 2020 it will be illegal for Toronto men to leave the city without some form of "permit".
#Zachary on Nov 17, 2018 :
Toronto.....where good men go to die a lengthy, painful, oppressive and torturous existence under a place of angry women.
#Anonymous on Nov 15, 2018 :
Canada is feminist:
#Happy Torontonian on Nov 14, 2018 :
Toronto is prohibitively expensive to live, more costly that real world class cities without offering the art or cultural scene. There are so many people coming without doing their homework, that salaries are bottom of the barrel and competition is cut-throat.
You need 225K salary to live well. If you don't have that, think twice.
#Wonda on Nov 11, 2018 :
Men also have to walk on eggshells when working in the office, because if those femoid co-workers complain that a male co-worker made her feel uncomfortable because she was wearing a see-through top for Lil Tyrone after work, a man can lose his job, his career prospects and livelihood over a false and vexatious accusation.

Many companies within Toronto are scared as hell to enforce dress codes to prevent vexatious sexual harassment claims, because the feminist demons have coerced the judicial system to view dress codes as discrimination against women.
#Anonymous on Nov 11, 2018 :
In Toronto, hoodlum and thugs who engage in pimping, money laundering, credit card scamming can afford to live in luxury condos and entertain vapid, shallow women, but the average man stuck in an office job and still living with his parents gets absolutely NOTHING. Degenerate city.
#Anonymous on Nov 10, 2018 :
Yeah living in Canada the division is clear. Two groups of men have emerged in society, the total compliant who base their entire identity on female approval and unironically call their beau "their better half" who is so much smarter than him.

And the outsider like this fella.

Its no surprise the most extreme opinions on each side are coming out of Canada, a place referred to by a first-wave feminist who visited as "the Saudi Arabia of feminism"
#Joseph on Nov 10, 2018 :
Wages and Salaries

Minimum wage in Ontario is now $14 per hour Or 29,120 per year. After tax $23,841
(Assuming a 40 hour work week)

Average Salary Toronto $58,453 or After Tax $44,345

This calculator Breakdown Ontario's Income Taxes and deductions
#Joseph on Nov 10, 2018 :
Apartments Price Breakdown

(Usually a new building with lots of amenities)

Bachelor $1600-$1800
1 Bedrooms $1900-$2200
1 Bed + den $2100-$2400
2 Bedroom $2600-$3300
If you want Parking add approximately 200

Downtown Regular Apartments

Bachelors $1200-$1500
1 Bedrooms $1500-$1800
2 Bedrooms $1800-$2200

Inner suburbs (North York, Etobicoke ETC)

Condo prices don't very much. But you'll probably get parking and a little more space.
Deduct $100-$200 From the condo prices stated above.

Regular Apartments

Bachelors $1000-$1200
1 Bedrooms $1200-$1500
2 Bedrooms $1500-$2000
3 Bedrooms $1800-$2400

Parking in these buildings are usually between $40-$100 bucks a month
#Saul on Nov 10, 2018 :
If you don't OWN the entire condo building, Toronto womyn don't even want to talk to you! True story!
You have to own the entire building, even if it's a 70+ storey condo tower. Toronto women are that materialistic.
#Mexican on Nov 07, 2018 :
Toronto femonists are at it again flooding the forum...
But if we discuss feminists, Dylan McEwen and J3ws, we get banned from the website.
Toronto is a femonist hellhole.
#Mexican on Nov 07, 2018 :
@Frustrated Millennial:
There is no future for young men living under Feminist Law in Toronto...
#Frustrated Millennial on Nov 06, 2018 :
Alexis knows what he/she (?) is talking about.

Needing $250,000/year is an exaggeration, but yeah working full-time at minimum wage means you are the working poor, and you better pray that the loans you take out for tuition get you a really good job after all that hard work and suffering you put in (HINT: probably wont). And even if you do get a decent job around $50,000/year, you will still struggle to afford a home, eat well, and start saving for retirement.

I'm a 31 year old man with two post-graduate degrees and I've been unemployed for a year now. I've sent out over 100 applications for jobs, had my resume reviewed by working professionals, published almost 10 academic research papers, had a portfolio that was in the top five of my class, studied under the president of my university, worked manual labour jobs through university to pay off my tuition, and still managed to look out for my girlfriend and family in the process. It was a tremendous grind but I was proud to do it because I thought my hard work would pay off and I was the first person in my family to pursue a post-graduate degree.

So now I'm unemployed and living with my parents at 31. No girl wants to date me despite being educated, good looking, and physically fit. The only job I've been offered was by a friend for some manual labour job in a factory for minimum wage, but with my education I'd like to make more than $35,000/year. I'm going to try some new strategies for connecting with employers, but if things don't start working out within a few months I don't think I'll have a choice but to start a new career path in the skilled trades (e.g., electrician, mason) or perhaps something like nursing, and get out of the city.

The craziest thing is that out of the people I know around my age, I'm actually doing relatively well! I have friends with tens of thousands of dollars in student loan debt, who are turning to drugs, and who work shitty jobs that are not allowing them to move forward in life.

I'm aware that there are many employed people in Toronto and that there is still a middle-class, but I do feel like I've been scammed and set up for failure despite doing everything I was told. Sometimes I wonder if this entire city just runs on debt and that maybe I'm an idiot for trying to be financially and socially responsible.
#Alexis Barnes on Nov 06, 2018 :

To live comfortably in Toronto, you need 225000 a year. If you don't have not landed a job with that salary, prepare to work until you drop, commute 4-6 hours, and lose sleep wondering how you will be able to save for a 1000000 dump when you can barely pay the interest of credit cards.

According to that article: "The numbers suggest that the city's minimum wage earners still fall short of the basics of life, even with the large hikes the province is implementing this year and next. Once the minimum wage rises to $15 per hour, full-time workers will make $31,200 before taxes, or some $9,000 less than LowestRates' estimate of the basic cost of living."
#Wonda on Nov 06, 2018 :
Mods, have the City of Toronto bureaucrats intimidated you not to remove the endless spam that has removed our comments regarding the feminist empire?