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Cost of Living in Toronto

Summary about cost of living in Toronto:

Restaurants [ Edit ] Range
Meal, Inexpensive Restaurant 20.00 C$ 15.00-25.00
Meal for 2 People, Mid-range Restaurant, Three-course 80.00 C$ 60.00-100.00
McMeal at McDonalds (or Equivalent Combo Meal) 11.00 C$ 9.49-13.00
Domestic Beer (1 pint draught) 8.00 C$ 6.00-9.00
Imported Beer (12 oz small bottle) 8.00 C$ 6.50-10.00
Cappuccino (regular) 4.32 C$ 3.00-5.50
Coke/Pepsi (12 oz small bottle) 2.38 C$ 1.50-3.00
Water (12 oz small bottle) 1.91 C$ 1.00-2.90
Markets [ Edit ]
Milk (regular), (1 gallon) 10.70 C$ 4.88-16.09
Loaf of Fresh White Bread (1 lb) 2.95 C$ 1.81-3.63
Rice (white), (1 lb) 2.13 C$ 1.13-2.86
Eggs (regular) (12) 3.69 C$ 2.27-5.00
Local Cheese (1 lb) 9.33 C$ 3.63-13.61
Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), (1 lb) 8.17 C$ 4.54-13.61
Beef Round (1 lb) (or Equivalent Back Leg Red Meat) 11.28 C$ 5.44-16.33
Apples (1 lb) 2.13 C$ 1.18-2.72
Banana (1 lb) 0.95 C$ 0.57-1.41
Oranges (1 lb) 2.38 C$ 1.27-3.18
Tomato (1 lb) 2.11 C$ 1.25-2.72
Potato (1 lb) 1.60 C$ 0.68-2.36
Onion (1 lb) 1.43 C$ 0.66-1.81
Lettuce (1 head) 3.10 C$ 1.60-4.00
Water (1.5 liter bottle) 2.76 C$ 1.25-4.00
Bottle of Wine (Mid-Range) 20.00 C$ 14.00-25.00
Domestic Beer (0.5 liter bottle) 3.11 C$ 2.30-4.00
Imported Beer (12 oz small bottle) 3.51 C$ 2.60-5.00
Cigarettes 20 Pack (Marlboro) 16.00 C$ 14.07-18.30
Transportation [ Edit ]
One-way Ticket (Local Transport) 3.25 C$ 3.00-3.25
Monthly Pass (Regular Price) 147.00 C$ 145.00-151.15
Taxi Start (Normal Tariff) 4.00 C$ 3.25-4.75
Taxi 1 mile (Normal Tariff) 3.22 C$ 2.82-4.35
Taxi 1hour Waiting (Normal Tariff) 35.00 C$ 30.00-51.00
Gasoline (1 gallon) 4.60 C$ 3.90-4.96
Volkswagen Golf 1.4 90 KW Trendline (Or Equivalent New Car) 25,000.00 C$ 21,000.00-28,000.00
Toyota Corolla 1.6l 97kW Comfort (Or Equivalent New Car) 24,008.61 C$ 19,000.00-28,000.00
Utilities (Monthly) [ Edit ]
Basic (Electricity, Heating, Cooling, Water, Garbage) for 915 sq ft Apartment 145.04 C$ 80.00-260.00
1 min. of Prepaid Mobile Tariff Local (No Discounts or Plans) 0.45 C$ 0.25-0.60
Internet (60 Mbps or More, Unlimited Data, Cable/ADSL) 66.95 C$ 45.00-90.00
Sports And Leisure [ Edit ]
Fitness Club, Monthly Fee for 1 Adult 55.95 C$ 30.00-76.00
Tennis Court Rent (1 Hour on Weekend) 37.49 C$ 15.00-56.00
Cinema, International Release, 1 Seat 15.00 C$ 13.00-18.00
Childcare [ Edit ]
Preschool (or Kindergarten), Full Day, Private, Monthly for 1 Child 1,588.36 C$ 1,000.00-2,100.00
International Primary School, Yearly for 1 Child 25,413.79 C$ 13,000.00-31,000.00
Clothing And Shoes [ Edit ]
1 Pair of Jeans (Levis 501 Or Similar) 72.13 C$ 45.00-100.00
1 Summer Dress in a Chain Store (Zara, H&M, ...) 45.86 C$ 30.00-70.00
1 Pair of Nike Running Shoes (Mid-Range) 109.74 C$ 80.00-150.00
1 Pair of Men Leather Business Shoes 140.24 C$ 100.00-200.00
Rent Per Month [ Edit ]
Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 2,100.28 C$ 1,700.00-2,500.00
Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 1,668.46 C$ 1,400.00-2,000.00
Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 3,472.41 C$ 2,700.00-4,698.63
Apartment (3 bedrooms) Outside of Centre 2,571.32 C$ 1,950.00-3,050.00
Buy Apartment Price [ Edit ]
Price per Square Feet to Buy Apartment in City Centre 985.73 C$ 836.12-1,114.83
Price per Square Feet to Buy Apartment Outside of Centre 795.46 C$ 588.00-938.31
Salaries And Financing [ Edit ]
Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax) 3,451.06 C$
Mortgage Interest Rate in Percentages (%), Yearly, for 20 Years Fixed-Rate 3.73 3.00-4.60

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Last update: July 2019
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100 Comments so far

#Anonymous on Jul 17, 2019 :
Is Europe liberal? Judging by the attitude to Russian-not so much.Everywhere there is a spread of lies
#Anonymous on Jul 15, 2019 :
"Lucas Silverman wtf r u talking about European countries that are far right? Modern Europe is probably the most liberal place that has ever existed in world history.

You people need to get a grip
#Anonymous on Jul 14, 2019 :
Toronto is not really the best place to be in Canada right now.

The rents here are crazy! You're looking at $1700 for a one bedroom apartment in a borough of Toronto, not Old Toronto proper. An apartment which is one hour away from Union station.

Jobs are very hard to find. I've heard of Canadian university graduates competing for warehouse and general labour jobs because the jobs in their field are limited or non-existent.

Intellectual discrimination is also an issue. Hiring Managers will not hire you if you are considered over-qualified, or if they perceive you to be from a "s-hole" country, they will refuse to hire you based on prejudice.

Toronto is good if you were born poor, and live in a poor country that is being destroyed by Canadian and US Armed forces, but if you are stable, well-educated and have a life in a decent country, think twice before coming here to beg for jobs to clean public toilets for minimum wages.
#Lucas Silverman on Jul 13, 2019 :
What I've noticed these days is that any website, blog or comments section which criticize the actual reality of Toronto is automatically shut down and censored.

It's a new observation that those who censor also support Ponzi-like schemes from MLM-like companies. It makes me wonder if Toronto is based on a MLM or Ponzi scheme, luring gullible immigrants to liquidate everything back home to transfer to Canada.

Anyways...Good luck renting in Toronto when the Landlords ask for so many requirements to rent a partition inside a room, located in the basement level for a whooping $1,000 a month!

Agenda 21 is in play here, and immigrants seem to forget that 90% of Canadians live in cities, while the rest of land is prohibited for residential construction.

Why risk your dignity to migrate to Toronto and end up living like second-class citizens?

Canada is unlike the USA where one has to have a job offer from an employer, and also assimilate to the country before moving there.

It seems that cities such as Toronto bring in the worst trash, and encourage anti-intellectualism through political correctness, while creating an Overton window of the far-left and the far-right. There is no balance of opinions in Toronto.

As a non-white Canadian immigrant, you will be viewed as a rapist by the white females, and the white men will harass and beat you up and call you racial slurs that aren't even attributed to you. The police will leave you there to get beaten up, and when you defend yourself, you will be arrested and there goes your prospects for being hired.

Canada brings in immigrants from far-right European countries, which increase anti-immigrant sentiment, so good luck thinking that cities such as Toronto are tolerant utopias.

The local Canadian will view you as an uneducated barbarian and discriminate against you in jobs, while the far right European immigrant will yell racist slurs and accuse you of being a Muslim when you could be a vegetarian Hare Krishna devotee.

Toronto is becoming one crazy asylum where only the lowest common denominator are allowed to live their way of life whether it be an Islamic extremist or a Hitler admirer vandalizing temples, mosques and synagogues. Bad place.
#Anonymous on Jul 13, 2019 :
@Ashley You're insane lady. Maybe it's you who should see a psychiatrist instead. I asked you a question and you can't answer properly. So much for a civilized Canadian who's only good for name-calling.
#Ashley on Jul 12, 2019 :
Shut up you incel!

Mods, can you ban Anonymous on Jul 12, 2019 and save a copy of his comment for a police investigation?
#Anonymous on Jul 12, 2019 :
@Ashley You wrote like Toronto is the only thing that matters in the country. What makes the other cities/provinces to you if you called yourself a great Canadian?
#Ashley on Jul 11, 2019 :
Welcome to Toronto Mauricio and Akash. You are very lucky to have been given a chance to live in our great country of Canada.

Toronto is ranked #1 as best city in the world for women, young adults and for families. Toronto is a great city with lots of restaurants, cultures, food and a quality of life which isn't compared to other world class cities.

Akash, if you're looking for a job, Billy Wong of Primerica Financial Services, an insurance company, will be happy to hire you based on your work experience.

Contact Billy Wong and he will set you up with a job at Primerica.
#Mauricio on Jul 10, 2019 :
If im going to be given a Taxable Mobility Allowance of CAD$10.200 as a one timer to relocate, What would the NET Allowance be? THANKS!!
#Akash Patel on Jul 09, 2019 :
Helo everyone, I receive an offer to migrate to Canada as PR. I'm planning to live in Toronto with my wife and daughters (age 5 and 8).

I pass the points system and my consultant has said that I will find a job in my field here. I work as a Chief Financial Officer at a multi-national company in Singapore. My annual pay is in American dollars= $115,000 yearly.

How much money do CFOs earn in Canada? I have $65,000 in liquid assets and my consultant advised me to sell all of my property, valued $185,000 because the cost of living is higher in Toronto. How long will $250,000 US dollars last for a family of four in Toronto, and can I buy a house there?

I don't mind volunteering for a few weeks to get my work experience verified.

Thanks!

Akash Patel
#Jon on Jul 06, 2019 :
@Ashley, they will hire "us" over a locally born Canadian, because we are better at the job. Your birthplace has got nothing to do with hireability. And it is illegal to discriminate like this.

Level of work getting done at Canadian companies is NOT world-class by a large margin. And there is not much cultural difference compared to MNCs abroad. So "Prove me that you are a good fit to Canadian workplace, because you have not worked in Canada before" is only there to serve as an invisible barrier for the newcommers, and allow less qualified Canadian borns to preserve their status.

If newcommers have been seen fit by the Canadian government to be a "high skilled worker", then they should be treated as such. All the immigration marketing is being done accordlingly. There are other countries who are much strict about immigration, where they only allow the very skilled, or people from a certain industry. You cannot have an immigration system like this, market as such, and demand people to do months and months of volunteering to secure a job below their seniority.

BTW, Toronto is NOT a world class city. Believe me, I have lived in many. Culture, transport, affordability, availability of services and entertainment is nowhere near the likes of NYC, London, Paris, most German cities or even Istanbul. I have lived in all. I can debate this for ever.
#Ashley on Jul 06, 2019 :
Volunteering is an investment for your future career. Ignore those who have a personal vendetta against Canada. You have to prove yourself to employers by volunteering at the company, and you will later get hired.

This is not anything to argue about because volunteering and doing unpaid work are the standard as every job here is competitive and Toronto is a world class city.

If you want the easy way out, please go to the States. There's a million of people who want to live in Canada, every single day, and working for free or volunteering is one way to obtain a job.

You have to show Canadian employers that you are employable in your fields. Why should they hire you over a locally born Canadian?

Volunteer and see your career prospects improve significantly! You will gain a network of colleagues and employers who will later hire you!

Volunteer for the first year of your arrival in Toronto. It's the only way to show Canadian employers that you are a Canadian employee!
#Anonymous on Jul 05, 2019 :
This place is a trap and a haven for scammers.

I went to a government-funded job agency, and was invited to a Job Fair that was also government-funded. These sleazy scammers masquerading as insurance and financial service companies were allowed to pose as employers, collect resumes, and offer "jobs" which involve paying an upfront fee of $99-$500 for "training" and working for no salary under a manager.

What I did notice was that the receptionist, mostly a Cauacsian woman who doesn't have the mathematical or language aptitude, was the only few employees who was given a salary, while the unpaid employees being scammed were newcomers and college students.

Canada's immigration system by itself is a scam, designed to lure middle and upper class immigrants to live under economic crippling conditions in major cities such as Toronto.

Only in Toronto would an educated, middle class Bank Manager or Engineer be forced to use a mop and clean public washrooms for minimum wages.

Aside from the low salaries, your dignity and your pride will be eroded. You will not be known as the Bank Manager of Barclays or HSBC Hong Kong, but you will be viewed negatively and even be accused of being an illegal immigrant if your skin and accent are not white enough.

Meanwhile, the same Caucasians who despise you will live like Kings and Queens when they graduate from their Ivy League schools to work abroad as consultants, even in your home country.

You want to move to Toronto to live in a moldy basement with a few other families, sharing a bathroom and living in the furnace room, while paying $1,000+ a month for this privilege, while being yelled at by the right wing supporters in public to go back to where you came from?

Good luck!

You will lose everything in Toronto. Canada is only good for those poorer classes who live in war zones.
#Anonymous on Jul 05, 2019 :
in my experience growing up in toronto, the only way to make it is to get into either finance or medical, or to know people, and even then it might not be enough

a friend of mine makes over 100k and his wife makes around 80k ... and all they can afford in toronto is a townhouse.. with no backyard, no big rooms, and not even a basement...

if the upper-middle class in toronto are living worse off than my parents, who never even went to college, and also struggled on one-income for years due to health issues, there is something horribly wrong going on here

how is toronto considered 'the greatest city in the world' when the most educated and hardest-working people can barely afford to have families?

and where does that the leave the majority of torontonians, who are working average or below-average jobs despite their education and credentials?
#Garth on Jul 03, 2019 :
Pratush:

Welcome to Toronto! Where like the thousands of others who were misled to moving here. Here are your monthly expenses, which might increase by the time you live here:

Rent: $2,000+ electricity
Food: $500
Transit: $300 for you and your wife
Sundry expenses:$500

You are looking at almost $3,500 monthly for survival living in Toronto, based on your family size.

regarding employment, they will tell you to volunteer for no pay for a few months, and then when you are at your last penny and can't afford to even buy a bus fare, they will hire you to work for minimum wage, which is $2,000 a month after taxes and CPP.

You will be worse off in Toronto.

Don't get angry at any of us who are giving you the truth. The government of Canada is to blame if you end up serving coffee or cleaning streets despite being told that your education and work experience will be wanted in demand in Toronto. LIES!

I've read stories of immigrants who eventually go berserk and lose everything. Be very mindful of moving to Canada. Jobs are scarce and the system is set up against the educated immigrant.
#RWMZ on Jul 03, 2019 :
Another commentator: "Toronto is a wealthy city and Toronto needs you."

No. You need us, but we don't need more people.

Housing has tripled because of the insane immigration policy, and years of saving are now useless.
#Mike on Jul 02, 2019 :
Dear Pratyush,

Do you have a job offer from a Canadian employer? If not, good luck moving to Toronto

A 2-bedroom apartment goes for at least $1,795+ hydro these days. Landlords will not allow you and your loved ones to live in a one-bedroom. I know this for a fact, because I work with apartment buildings.

You will most likely work in a factory or clean toilets for $14 f 44 hours a week, amounting to $2,400 a month after taxes.

Canadian employers might demand that you work for free "volunteer" for a few months while you use your life savings.
#Pratyush on Jul 02, 2019 :
I am planning to move to Canada with my wife and 2 infants. What should be my minimum monthly earning after all deductions to survive?
#Mike on Jul 01, 2019 :
As a self-employed person who does construction and building maintenance, I can tell you the truth that many basements, even those rented from rental apartments are unfit for first world living.

Many of these houses and apartments were built in the late 1940s and 1950s after the 2nd world war, and basements were usually constructed in a way that it was used as a storage unit rather than for dwelling.

But what I have discovered recently is that homeowners are packing five or six families, not individuals, but entire families into the basement and using closets and furnace units as rooms. They are charging those families at least $1,000 a month, and multiply that by four or five and that is an easy $5,000 to rent out their basement.

The housing and job situation in Toronto is collapsing into third world economics.
#Pat (born in Toronto) on Jun 30, 2019 :
Ashley is another of the many snowflakes and FAR LEFT people plaguing and holding back Toronto and Canada. They don't acknowledge the realities and issues, so that is why improvements are not done or achieved. Borderline communism, shutting down people whose views are either reality, or just different than their own. Yet they go around acting so worldly and open. Ashley, if you are a proud Canadian, you would look out for your own fellow countrymen first, because many are struggling or have lack of opportunity including facing extreme rent and real estate for the true worth.

The reality is Canada including Toronto doesnt have much going in it, so there is no point for much immigration anymore. Stop telling people abroad that it's so great in Canada, because you are just setting them up for disappointment and you are contributing to BRAIN DRAIN and a larger carbon footprint (pollution). Canada is not a "go-get" place, that would be the United States. There is a saying these days "Toronto - where innovation goes to die".
#Ashley on Jun 29, 2019 :
I'm sure glad that the moderators have banned the negative posters.

Toronto is a great city which needs skilled workers. Come to Canada. You will not regret moving here.

Ignore the negative comments, which are from Alt-Right posters and right wing extremists.

Toronto is a wealthy city and Toronto needs you.
#Clyde Lovitz on Jun 27, 2019 :
Employers are actually charging money from job seekers.

If someone from India, a country that has an average GDP per capita of US$2,000 could afford to pay $30,000 to an Immigration Consultant for employment, then I believe that many of those claiming that they are scammed are part of the problem.

The average Canadian doesn't have $30,000 to spare. They don't even have an extra $300 in life savings.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-employers-taking-cash-from-foreign-workers-seeking-permanent-resident/
#Evictor on Jun 27, 2019 :
Toronto councilors making six digit salaries cry that the city will not have housing for future generations. They are one generation late, as newcomers do not have housing that can be covered by average salaries, and if they earn minimum, sink into the despair of debt. I am horrified at the incompetence of local government, that is more worried about dwindling bird and butterfly populations, than actual humans. Build capacity first, stop bringing people into economic ruin.
#Solomon on Jun 25, 2019 :
What you hear:
Before you come: Canada has a great quality of life! come to enjoy diversity, healthcare, education, and social services! Bring all your savings, sell everything!
After you come: you don't have canadian experience, you are overqualified, 3000 dollars a month is the going rate, you need to volunteer, we are doubling the rent next month and you are evicted. If you can't handle the overheated housing market, get out of Tranna (Toronto, with the typical local accent)!
Big fish eat little fish. Big fish has one million dollars to live in this city, and they eat those who work 2 3 jobs to make ends meet. The invisible hand of capitalism has no humanity, and values only cold, hard, electronic or real cash/assets. You cannot say you have not been warned.
#Anonymous on Jun 24, 2019 :
The city of Toronto bureaucrats forced Numbeo to remove my comment regarding the money laundering that is happening for Toronto real estate.

Canada supports war criminals, dictators and corrupt 3rd world politicians to park their dirty proceeds of crime, into a Toronto condo, and no amount of censorship will shut me up.

It's money laundering which is causing rents and house prices to skyrocket here in TO.

Only in Toronto would an African or Asian war criminal be allowed to transfer millions, if not billions of stolen public funds or laundered cash for Toronto real estate.
#anonymous on Jun 22, 2019 :
#Carol Smith, I guess you are one of the government people who loves censoring any negative comments as many of the users complain about? You realize that your actions are only supporting their points right? Why are you going to send a legal notice to the mods? For allowing free speech?

I wish this comment space existed when I was considering coming to Toronto.

Let me tell you about my conditions:
History:
I have a world class education, and I mean top #5 in global rankings. I worked at Bulge Bracket investment banks in London, UK. The ones that don't even have an office in Canada. I don't want to look down on anyone. But we were not even applying to RBC. My classmates who stayed at London are making GBP 500,000 a year.
What did I do? I got sentimental. I got married. I looked for an alternative, non capitalist life style, where I would be valued for things other than my status and my salary. And I immigrated to Toronto. Boy, I was wrong.

Finding a job:
This is a mad house, with closed borders. International names mean jack shit here. You can be an Harvard or a Stanford MBA grad. No sir. UofT, Waterloo, Queens grads take precendence over you. Because they know people who are hiring. Applying through web portals are equivalent of throwing your CV down the trash. And I mean it. I have been on both ends of the spectrum (job seeker and hirer).
Employers complain about lack of good talent, but they are full of shit. They don't want to hire newcommers. I guess they fear that we come from the jungle and we'd take our dicks out in the middle of the office.
Lack of "Canadian experience". You know what that means? That means mediocracy. That means, all you talk about is your super-boring-BlogTO-guided-weekend, or the food you eat. That means, rather than giving constructive feedback, you gots to play politics (see shitsandwhich). That means that even if you do something good, you got to send a post on LinkdedIn in this format: "Incredibly humbled to be part of this great community. So proudoud to help (insert bullshit capitalist cause). Thank you @(another bullshiter#1) (another bullshither from whom you want a job) for organising this great night. #givingback)"

My living conditions:
- 70,000 / year salary for first 6 months
- 84,000 last 6 months
- 2 person family (wife don't work)
- living in St. Clair & Yonge
- 50 sqm 1+1 apt with no washing machine
- 1,850 / month rent

I save $0. (no retirement benefits). I don't have a car. I eat outside once a week at a cheapy restaurant.

My friends: work friends who listen to fcking Drake and the most intellectual book that they've read is Sapiens.

I was getting depression treatment and had an eye surgery just before coming here. You want to know how long it took me to see a doctor?
- 3 months to get OHIP (state health program)
- 1 month to find a family doctor
- 3 months to get a referral to a shtty resident psyciatrist
- 6 months to get a referral to an eye expert

I am in my 13th month, and still waiting for some referrals.

Healthcare sucks. Education is paid through the real estate (good schools are in good neighborhoods that costs more). There is no state funded retirement plan.

This is the reality folks.

If you want culture and a social state --> Europe
If you want money and career --> USA

Whatever you do, don't fucking come here.
#Warner Brother on Jun 21, 2019 :
Please read the fine print when you add data: the apartment should be of recent date and in a decent condition. The prices in the lower end are from the early 2000's. There is no price control on the rent increases for buildings made after 1990's. They can double the rent, and you will be in a hotel, in a family member's sofa, or on the streets (friends are a rare and expensive commodity). For going rates, check a rental website. Only horror basements cost 1500 or less for a one bedroom.
#John Adams on Jun 20, 2019 :
There is one big expense missing, amount paid to service debt.

Global news says that the average Canadian household was using a record 14.9 per cent of its disposable income to meet debt obligations, Statistics Canada said on Wednesday. They call this, crushing debt. So after you pay OSAP and credit cards, you owe 1.78 dollars for each dollar you earn. So basically you are in the minus for the privilege of surviving in Toronto.
#Anonymous on Jun 18, 2019 :
I don't think that this is the actual reality for young people, newcomers and unskilled workers:

Average Monthly Net Salary (After Tax) 3,493.56 C$

You either start at minimum wage $14 for 44 hours max, or you follow the scam of higher Canadian education, incur debt of at least $35,000 for a 4 year degree, and when you graduate, all you can find are work for free internships.

This shows that working in a warehouse or factory for $2,400 a month full time, puts you farther ahead than someone wasting four years to study for a Canadian degree, and having to work for free.
#Hockney on Jun 17, 2019 :
I have worked in recruiting people, and I have never seen hundreds of resumes as I do now. Yet, the most qualified will not be chosen, but the ones who want to do the job at the lowest price. It's like a wall-martification process. Canadians who paid big bucks for education are not even considered, neither foreign students who paid double or triple for Canadian education. Often, a person with a foreign university that was funded by their government accepts a low-ball offer, and they are in. Even if you get a job in your field which you do by volunteering months or years, it is not enough. 90K in Toronto does not guarantee rent, food, and transportation.

How come other forms of entertainment are not included here? (hockey tickets go for 200 dollars or more, opera for 100 or so, theater for 50 or more...)

Those fraudsters who keep telling others to come just want Real Estate money, and have no scruples on how to get it. Show reputable sources of info, not just half-baked lies your RE agent told you.

Reno-victions are rampant, and basement apartments are going for higher than 1500 these days. I don't remember seeing 1750 apartments in Toronto lately, they go for at least 1850.

People are starting to react, but I am afraid it is too little, too late:

https://globalnews.ca/news/5397306/canada-immigration-poll/
#Dale regents on Jun 15, 2019 :
If you're poor, the wealthy will evict you from your low income housing, as what is currently happening in Regent Park of downtown Toronto:

https://torontolife.com/culture/toronto-photographer-spent-decade-documenting-gentrification-regent-park/

If you don't have $2,000+ for rent, another $300 for utilities, $500 for food, and $1,000 for car insurance and fees, don't bother coming here or else you will be homeless, yet wasting your savings in this dump of a city.
#Mike Martins on Jun 14, 2019 :
Canada's (Mass) Immigration System is a scam. It exists first and foremost to inundate the country with cheap labour, so businesses such as realtors and corporations can maximize their profits. The excess of workers depresses the wages, while increasing rental prices. Supply and demand... That is very basic economics.

You will be paying $1,500 a month to rent a room inside a basement, while your pay will be minimum wage.

Employment statistics are purposely distorted by the government in order to avoid panic and keep the scam going. The reality is that most immigrants are either unemployed or underemployed (dead end warehouse jobs, part time janitor jobs, casual jobs, no benefits, no vacations, etc).

Of course, Canadians born in Canada are also badly affected by unemployment/underemployment brought about by this scam, but they remain strangely passive regarding the problem of mass immigration. It is estimated that 40% to 60% of immigrants leave Canada for good within 10 years after their arrival.

Unfortunately, when they finally wake up to the fact that immigration to Canada is actually a nightmare, they have wasted years of their professional life & savings, and it is often quite difficult or impossible to start over when they decide to go back to the old country.

Many got chronically depressed. Some even commit suicide. Others get ill and die quietly in poverty. To the system it doesn't matter. It's an inhuman machine driven by corporations that control the government. Basically, that is the dirty truth about today's Canadian immigration system.
#Charlie on Jun 14, 2019 :
Jobs are definitively great, specially when they can afford shelter, food, and additional healthcare expenses. When you cannot find a job, you will ran into debt and other life issues. If you can find a job where you will be harassed, that will demoralize you and if you are on a work permit, you will not have the same kind of protection as regular workers.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/canada-immigrant-job-experience-1.4818095

If someone blurts mantras about Toronto being great, just because they have it good, that does not mean you will have the same experience. Kindly post job offers that newcomers can actually get other than legal threats.
#torontoisfailingus
#Carol Smith on Jun 13, 2019 :
Ignore many of these negative comments. Toronto is a great city and we need immigrants.

Work, whether paid or unpaid, is good for the human spirit. No job is a dead end job here in Toronto. This is a city which is competitive and ranked #1 city in the world.

Moderators, please provide us a mailing address for us to direct a legal notice to your legal department.
#Anonymous on Jun 12, 2019 :
A reminder to those having to commute for hours on end by leaving early to work for free in downtown Toronto or some faraway industrial site---Toronto is dangerous that you don't know who has a gun in their pocket.

You will become a victim of gun violence, as crime is surging because of the high cost of living. Can you blame these aspiring rappers for bussing a shot in a crowded jam packed TTC bus before rush hour?

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ttc-bus-double-shooting-suspect-images-toronto-1.5171935
#Woster on Jun 12, 2019 :
The high costs of this city have de-humanized the rich, and the poor. There is a gaping inequality and it is about to get worse. The richt are upset, because they fell entitled to 20% increases in property value, which are not happening anymore so they raise rents. The middle is so squeezed into debt, that the anger is noticeable. I have never read so many negative comments for a city, but this one takes the cake. Council is useless, divided on a majority of councillors who would sell their own mothers for profit, and the minority who have a not in my backyard mentality, do not care about people losing their incomes to rent, and think their ten year plan will solve things for them politically. They know the middle does not count because they can't vote as they are too busy commuting. Let them lose everything and leave, that is the message.
#Anonymous on Jun 12, 2019 :
These costs are a must while living in a socially toxic city such as Toronto:

Cost of hourly therapy (billed at 45 mins or 50 mins): $250/hr for Psychologist, $195/hr for RSW.

Cost of medication not covered by OHIP: $100 a month

Cost of being hospitalized because of the toxic social culture: $45 ambulance fee, $500 fine for "disturbing the peace", though police sent you to a loony house for mental evaluation.

Cost for lawyers= $350/hr, and you will require lawyers to represent you for false accusations from Canadian women in the workplace, and also standing up to greedy landlords and employers.
#Anonymous on Jun 11, 2019 :
A reliable source which proves that working for free is the new minimum wage in Toronto:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/unpaid-interns-working-for-free/article590498/

God curse those Canadian Boomers who only have a Grade 8 education, but have today become millionaires because of their paper worth of their real estate bubble. Boomers in their 60s making 10000% profit on their homes and living in luxury in Costa Rica, while enabling policies back in Toronto to make young people work for free while renting a moldy basement furnace room for $1,000 or even more a month, and on top paying for heat and electricity.

Canadian whistle blower Valerie Guillaume has videotaped several instances of people living in the furnace room of a rooming house in Toronto. It's that dire.
#Coldhardtruth on Jun 11, 2019 :
@ Che Castro: where do you see articles saying this kind of information? Out there, they tell everyone that when they come to Toronto, they will get a big house, a good paying job, new car, and their kids will go to excellent universities. The only downside is that it is cold, but Torontonians are awesome! are they not?

Now, people can only uproot themselves and move a couple of times in their lives. When they join this overpriced Cathedral of neo-feudalism, the yoke of debt is too heavy for them to leave, and they are shamed into silence. Every lunch conversation, there are the home owners, some of them bought their shoebox condos for 80k, but now behave as the owners of a 800k shoebox. Arrogant and plain rude. They make fun of newcomers, and enjoy their suffering, specially if they are more educated and speak more languages, yet they can barely get a job at the beer store for 16 an hour. Newcomers beware, you can work your whole life and still be worse of than the poor in this city who get subsidized housing downtown. The middle class has been annihilated, and there's only poor, working poor, or nasty rich.
#Che Castro on Jun 10, 2019 :
The powers that be are deliberately understating the actual housing and food prices to deceive newcomers. They wouldn't migrate to Toronto if they knew that they would be working for free, while exhausting their life savings, at least $25,000 yearly to live in a basement apartment filled with toxic mold, pests, mice and radon.

Regarding "volunteers",Cambridge Dictionary descried volunteer as "willingly and without being forced".

What you are describing is people working for free, with the hopes of getting a job in Toronto, being coerced with threats of "job loss" and "unemployment" by a greedy Manager/Employer who is extorting them for monetary gain, such as free coffee.
#DisenchantedwithCA on Jun 10, 2019 :
Che Castro, please spread the word and tell others to add real prices. The local basketball team winning will not make up for all the suffering of working away your life, while not making enough to escape debt.

Gig jobs are the only ones readily available, so 3,400 is not realistic for newcomers. You are looking at 2400 a month. That means no benefits, so Numbeo, can you please add costs for dentist and medicine? Also for parking. You are looking at 25 dollars for parking downtown, which is insane by world standards.

Going back to dentist, unless you have perfect teeth, you are going to put down a couple hundred or thousand for your masticating buddies.

Having said that, they are forcing people to pay money, on top of volunteering for free. I knew a manager who had poor hygiene and was so nasty, he forced volunteers to buy him coffee, or he would fire them. They had to pay parking, to top it all.

Toronto will cost you beyond what you will earn. Come at your own risk.
#Che Castro on Jun 09, 2019 :
Food, phone and rent prices are grossly understated on this forum.

Even Dollar Store bread is $2.25, and inching towards $2.50.

The slum lords here would charge you $1,800 for the privilege to rent a rat infested cockroach nest which still use appliances and infrastructure from the 1950s and 1960s.

Everything is a scam in Toronto, and don't expect a good paying job unless you are part of the club who live in mansions at Bride Path, Forest Hill and Leaside.

To be honest, the work for free after graduation scam is commonplace in Toronto. This is how desperate graduates are, to work for free when they have tens of thousands in student loans to repay.
#Jarvis on Jun 09, 2019 :
@Madbeaver
The screeching perp in that racist road rage incident looks like a black hyena. The fact is that gutter trash from all over the world have descended on Toronto bringing their wild uncivilized culture with them. That is typical black behavior. A public nuisance.
#Prem on Jun 09, 2019 :
A British-trained accountant and his bookkeeper wife have launched a lawsuit against the federal government, alleging they were misled by Canadian immigration officials who assured them they'd have no trouble finding professional jobs to support their family in Canada.

The couple -- Selladurai (Prem) Premakumaran is a native of Sri Lanka, and his wife Nesamalar is from Malaysia -- spent 22 years in Britain before learning that their fluency in English, along with their education and professional credentials, made them eligible to live and work in Canada.

But since their arrival in 1998, neither has been able to use their training.

The formerly middle-class family of six is living in a cramped two-bedroom basement apartment. The parents have had to clean toilets, shovel snow and borrow money from their 15-year-old son to pay the bills.
#Anonymous on Jun 07, 2019 :
Canadian immigration is a scam for newcomers, you will not find a job in your field unless you know someone:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EN1cACl2E-0
#Madbeaver on Jun 07, 2019 :
@Former Scarberian: spread the word, and ask other people to post real wages in Numbeo, at least minimum because they will not take 0 for an answer even when it is real and even when some people actually pay to work. If you have not posted real prices for this greed hole, please do so. This is what Tronno is coming to. It is a dyson vacuum for newcomer money.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-employers-taking-cash-from-foreign-workers-seeking-permanent-resident/

And diversity? Go to city hall, to the council meetings. There's more diversity at a tiki torch rally in south Carolina than there. Just look at the mayors of the GTA that greet you when you come to Pearson airport. Real diversity only at Timmy's coffee.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/toronto-woman-yells-racial-slurs-at-a-driver-in-an-intense-road-rage-incident/ar-AACuT1h
#Former Scarberian on Jun 07, 2019 :
I used to live in Scarborough, and my apartment now charges $1,800 a month to rent a one-bedroom apartment because of a few minor tweaks such as tiles and painted walls.

The information on rent needs updating. Rent isn't even $1,500 for a one bedroom apartment. You also have to pay your own electricity and sometimes heating costs.

And $3485 net monthly salary after tax? Are you kidding me? The starting wage in this unequal city of Toronto is working for free, then working for $14 hour for the maximum 44 hours a week, as employers refuse to pay overtime rates.

This will total $2,400 a month gross, and after taxes and statutory deductions, that leaves you $2,000 a month after taxes, if you could even find that job in Toronto.

Rent is $1,800 and the wage is $2,000 leaving you with $200 for food, electricity, transit, etc. Working paycheck to paycheck.

Also agree that Toronto has a feudalistic landlord class which raises rents so that the working poor can never get ahead.
#Anonymoose on Jun 07, 2019 :
Tranna has a high quality of life, for slumlandlords, of course. 1300 for a one bedroom, means that, one bedroom rent, not the whole apartment. You can find those prices too in basements, filled with mold and never tested for radon. The faster you realize that rents are meant to be economically crippling, to ensure conformity (poor people cannot afford to complain), the better the life is for those hoarding 2, 3, 4 or more properties.
Canada fell from the top 10 HDI countries back in 2013. Now we are probably approaching the levels of Guatemala for HDI.
Keep coming to Tranna, I want to buy a ferrari with your rent money.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canada-falls-out-of-top-10-in-uns-human-development-index/article9758218/
#Justin on Jun 06, 2019 :
$1,300 for a one bedroom apartment in Toronto? Where? When? $1,300 was the going rent back in 2012 or 2013, surely not today.

Rent prices for newcomer tenants, as in new tenants signing 2019 or 2020 leases, will pay at least $1,600-$2,000 a month rent in Scarborough or North York---at least 20 minutes commute to downtown Toronto by car on the highway, or 1 hour if you use TTC.

Working for free via volunteering or internships for "Canadian experience" is the new minimum wage in Toronto.

Yet, the scamming Canadian immigration consultants will not tell you that if you're a surgeon or CEO of a 5-star hotel in Asia or Europe, that you will only find work for free jobs in your field after studying years at a Canadian college or university, or that the only jobs that you will find at the moment is working in factories or cleaning public toilets for minimum wage.
#Anonymoose on Jun 06, 2019 :
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/hindu-priest-abuse-allegations-1.4485863

"Temporary Foreign Worker permit holders are restricted to work with one employer in Canada.

"Their ability to stay in Canada and make a living is completely dependent on that one employer. So if that one employer is treating them badly, whether in terms of working conditions or employment standards, they have very little real recourse because they can't leave that job," said No."

Toronto is too expensive to have rights. If your employer treats you badly, and you are on a work permit, you have to live with it, or leave without it. Get informed before you come, and if you are already here, beware. Your ideas will be welcome, and you will be given a false hope that you can succeed. But you can't, money is the only success here, and if you don't get more, you are going to live in squalid conditions for the rest of your life. The average rate of a lawyer is 200 dollars an hour, which you have to pay because you have to have a job otherwise they will kick you out. While unemployed people get legal aid, which is kind of useless, you have to pay to have rights. Numbeo, can you include prices for lawyers too?

They love taking 20,000 a year for tuition, but once you finish your college diploma or university, they will pay you 0 dollars a year, because you don't have experience, and your last name is not Ford, or Layton or Trudeau.

Toronto is not becoming a rip-off for those who are not part of the club, Toronto was always a rip-off for those who are not part of the club. The first nations were ripped off their land, and thrown some booze to them to compensate. That is why it's just a midget city of 2.8 million people, not 10 million like real world class cities.
#Anonymous on Jun 05, 2019 :
@ Toronto is expensive:

"The cost of licensing fees, exams and training upgrades for foreign credential recognition can also drain finances."

Numbeo should also input this costs as many professionals from abroad will have to retrain to have a 0.001% chance to work in their fields in Canada. Thousands of dollars for exam fees alone.

Canadians will be glad for international students to pay $20,000 a year for tuition, and also another $20,000 for student housing living like sardines in tins, worse than a slum in India or Bangladesh.

Toronto is becoming a rip-off for those who are not part of the club.
#Sunshine on Jun 05, 2019 :
The people of the city are so welcoming before you arrive to Pearson airport but after that it is like someone turns on the taximeter, everything costs two, three, or as in housing, twenty times more than other real first world cities. The wages are inadequate and the governance incompetent, you can see people sleeping in bus shelters on regular basis and if you sacrifice your personal and family life for a promotion, it will come with a 100 dollar increase every two weeks, that's it, nothing more. All this while your rent will go up by 400 or more because there are no caps for rent increases on properties built after 1990 or something like that. If you have a job and they kick you out of your apartment you will have to go to a hotel at 160 or 200 per night. After ten nights you are down by 2000 dollars.
Numbeo, can you please include dentist costs? those are insanely expensive. And for those nasty torontonians who make fun of people with mental issues like some in the comments below, psychotherapy is around 200 dollars an hour you should consider it if you take pleasure on others people's pain. Fines, there should be a section for fines as they are insane, parking fines, speeding fines, there is one for 2000 to 10,000 for going 50 km over the limit. So beware, in this city you are one fine, one disease, one dentist (not covered by your plan) away from financial ruin.
#Torontoisexpensive on Jun 04, 2019 :
I wake up every morning hoping to get a job that will get me out of here. I have been here for ten years and work in a prestigious hospital, yet that is not enough to cover living expenses and rent without being frugal. Barely any savings. No car, no social life, Toronto's rent is insanely expensive, and after it, there is not much to "enjoy" the city. The last success story I heard was from the 90's, when people where outside mount sinai with "workers wanted" signs. They would hire anyone regardless of credentials or level of English. Now, it is the workers with signs "will take any job".

The other day a photographer was taking pictures for free near college park station. He had a 5 thousand dollar camera, and I asked him why. He said he was an engineer who could only find jobs in Tim Horton's. So yeah, you will not have a problem finding a minimum wage.

If you do happen to get a good job, you will have to fill in for all the lazy people who are just cruising. If you stop filling in for them, they will gang up on you and verbally harass you or yell at you. Dare to go to HR and you will be labelled a troublemaker and your career is over.

Toronto invests all its energy on bringing people, once you are here, you are alone. If you fail, you either have enough money to get out, or crash and end up in the streets, where police will watch you die and do nothing about it.
Here's a story of a UK educated lawyer, from the BBC (not delusional and baseless "this city is world class!" utterances):

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40651176
#Torontonian on Jun 03, 2019 :
https://www.cp24.com/news/montreal-aims-to-find-affordable-housing-fix-that-has-eluded-toronto-vancouver-1.4447927

Key take-away from this article: "As Toronto and Vancouver struggle to keep housing affordable for anyone but the wealthy"

If you are not wealthy, million dollars plus cash in your pocket plus another million, you will not find affordable, decent housing in Toronto. Basements rent for 2400 in the city. Living in the suburbs is a commuting sentence, and there is no life other than the time spent on transportation or the car. Bosses do not tolerate lateness, even when it is not your fault. Hardship, debt, and false hope is what Toronto offers to newcomers.
#NOT_CANADA on Jun 01, 2019 :
So doctors who live as Kings in their home country, close shop, arrive to Canada with tens of thousands of dollars, work as cleaners, janitors, taxi drivers, factory workers, even work for free, just for a Canadian passport?

It's still a crappy deal because dozens of countries offer passport and investment citizenship at a cheaper cost.

Those doctors must be out of their minds because they wouldn't work for free for poor patients, but they are willing to undersell their labour and even work for free in Canada?
#LiGoang on May 31, 2019 :
Tax avoidance is totally legal. Toronto was an excellent place for that, but no more!
They started biting the hands that feed, in the name of human rights or international agreements. People's daily said, do not say we did not warn you. What kind people jails innocent cancer survivors? We played by the rules and won, you can't change the rules when the game is going happening.
Free Meng Wanzhou!
#ANK on May 31, 2019 :
@Howard
I don't care about living in a Global city and I don't care about the number of condos as they don't affect me. I care about quality of life and Toronto is severely lacking compared to most Canadian cities. Yeah, the city attracts the most immigrants, but their infrastructures couldn't keep up with the pace of the growth in which led with more insatisfaction with its citizens than any other major Canadian cities. I'm glad the other Canadian cities didn't try to be too much like Toronto, and Vancouver too because of their mild weather hype, at least they pay more attention to their citizens need than getting themselves attention to the world. So do yourself a favor, and live with the negativities. It's common knowledge that Toronto had its issues, so accept the reality.
#American on May 31, 2019 :
"Toronto is the greatest world-class city in the world" rotflol!

That comment is Post-truth, total and utter Post-truth backed by no data: "relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief."

The people that write things like that, reflect their abysmal lack of knowledge, and keep repeating this to themselves because there are more cracks surfacing on this big lie.

As an american who came here for the "better quality of life", I can attest this city is overpriced, a cultural backwater, and has nothing to offer to hard working individuals but an expectation to do even more until they burn out. In the US you work hard, you get money thrown at you. Here? You get more work, and yelled at because you ask for a promotion. Only those who hoarded land, apartments and houses can talk about how good the living is. They are paying 300 dollars a month for the right to a permanent place, while extracting 2000-3000 from renters. How is that going to let you move ahead?

But of course you need one year savings, if you don't have it, don't bother coming. And use the prices above, not the guidelines from the ever dropping standards of immigration canada website (2000 rent for one person, plus 1500 living expenses, 3500 ~ 42,000 cash you will lose and it will not come back).

This city will reward you with a minimum wage, while extracting the prices above for bare survival. See those condo towers in the sky? Many of them are going belly up leaving the gullible buyers on the lurch. The wealth extraction of this city is becoming well known.

https://torontolife.com/city/life/anatomy-real-estate-disaster/

Developers are cancelling projects left right an center:

https://www.blogto.com/real-estate-toronto/2019/03/developers-cancel-another-sold-out-condo-project-toronto/

Now, the problem with being economically abused in Toronto, is that it takes years to speak out. You are trying to keep above water paying bills, and liars like those claiming greatness without providing any evidence will push you down every chance they can, because there is a line up behind you waiting to take your place. If you are in the line waiting to come here, get out for your own sake. More stories will come about this chaotic experiment called a city. They will say that you are poor because you are lazy, but at the same time, they are incompetent and had no other qualification that buying property when the prices reflected the nothingness that this city entails.

If you are surviving this city, speak up, don't let uninformed, ignorant people silence what is really going on.
#Anonymous on May 30, 2019 :
Toronto: House price: $873,100. Household income needed: $160,000

If you move here, you will have to compete with thousands of other newcomers and college graduates to work for ZERO dollars. Work for free. This is the new minimum wage in Toronto.

Employers bypass minimum wage laws by colluding with colleges and universities to source free labor through internships.

This should be illegal, and akin to the white collar version of slavery, but thousands of gullible students actually believe that working for free gets their foot in the door of these corporations?

You have ACCA Members migrating to Canada competing with each other to work for free at certain financial institutions, on top of wasting tens of thousands of their dollars to acquire the Canadian version of their credentials.
#Janine Cash on May 30, 2019 :
For anyone coming to Toronto, do not move a finger unless you have a job, found a place to live, and come with at least 100k to spend on rent, or 1 million to buy a crappy fix-it-over. If you do not listen to good advice, you will end up living in an awful place, with landlords who have no respect or humanity, and bosses who will treat you like cattle.

Toronto is expensive because speculation and money laundering has made it so. The city is not worth a quarter of what it is currently selling for. Awful weather, crumbling infrastructure, poor education, and now, even health care is suffering with patients waiting for months or years for procedures, and the high-school educated premier of the province cutting hospital's budgets, instead of taxing absent landhoarders.

Juwai, a chinese website selling property, explains the "benefits" of buying million dollar properties, while declaring 0 world income. How can this be allowed to happen?

https://list.juwai.com/

Canada needs unexplained wealth law, such as the one in the UK. But the government is slooooow to act, because they are up to their necks on the dirt and corruption:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2017/22/part/1/chapter/1/crossheading/unexplained-wealth-orders-england-and-wales-and-northern-ireland/enacted
#Bad Bunny on May 29, 2019 :
OK bunny,

Canada is against entrepreneurial and free thinking people as it affects the elite status quo.

Lots of immigrants are mistaken that Canada is entrepreneurial like the USA, where if someone tries to succeed, they will likely achieve this, as American corporate and business culture value hard work,

unlike Canada where a dunce who only has a Grade 10 education is supervising hundreds of college graduates working for minimum wage, or even for free. And that dunce was lucky to have bought a house or inherited one when it was 10 times less the value than it is today at multi-million dollar prices.

Numbeo should be ashamed for itself for obeying the orders of a government agency to delete and censor comments which highlight the fact that educated immigrants will be packing boxes in factories, sweeping floors and cleaning public toilets for the fest of their lives in Toronto, even if they waste tens of thousands of dollars for Canadian education. It's a scam.
#Anonymous on May 29, 2019 :
If you're arriving to Canada fresh off the plane, rent is $2,000-$3,000 for a one bedroom in Leslieville, after the Landlord kicks out the current tenants who paid cheaper rent years ago:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/renoviction-leslieville-logan-ave-1.5151943
#OK Bunny on May 29, 2019 :
@Bad Bunny, they are supposed to come up with the new Facebook or software that will bring billions to Toronto and make them proud. Else, just spiral down into despair, and become homeless or leave. People are being replaced like day old bread, daily. No humanity, only money. How do you expect empathy from torontonians who sit on a million dollars sheet rock box? If I had a dollar for every time I was told to get out if I cannot afford this city by kind and sweet torontonians, I would have a sheet rock box by now.

Spread the message, this city feeds on the dreams of the people it tricks into coming, leaving them their savings, and collapsing afterwards. Maybe after millions of stories start becoming public, people will stop coming. Then Toronto will become the Detroit of Canada.

They have tricked the world into believing that property in ice covered land is worth millions of dollars. It is not. Property in the Mediterranean sea, where you can drink wine and enjoy fine dining, is a quarter of this price.

If you are able to find a moldy, damp and dark basement for 1,450, consider yourself lucky. On top of that, most jobs are minimum wage, no room to move up because there are hundreds of people waiting for that position. Half of them are desperate students with debt in the tens of thousands, whose parents usually hate them and blame their character flaws for their shortcomings in life. Whatever you do, avoid debt. Once you are in, you can never get out.

This society has systematically destroyed the capacity of the next generation to make a living. They are angry because the 20% increases to their paper property are slowing down. Don't expect empathy from them, nor from Ford Nashion and their grade 8 solution to complex socio-economical issues they do not fully understand.
#Bad Bunny on May 28, 2019 :
I have multiple friends making over 100k/year and they're in their mid-30s still debating if they can afford to have children. What the **** is everyone else with an average income supposed to do?

They are lucky to even have jobs that pay this much. The average salary job in Toronto is $30k yearly and requires a four year Canadian degree.

The Toronto bureaucrats and the 1% are angry that there are watchdogs who reveal that employers here would rather contact Seneca, Centennial George Brown and Humber for free labour using sophisticated "internship" schemes.

How could any college student or graduate work for free when the rents keep climbing higher and higher in Toronto?

And to those bureaucrats and greedy employers and 1%ers who hate me for speaking the truth, one of these days a website will be created to document the appalling censorship that happens when one complains of Canada.
#Anonymous on May 28, 2019 :
"People with no real ambition, dream or passion for life will do well in these Anglo countries"

Pretty much this... Canada is not a place for a well-rounded intelligent individual
There can be no Renaissance man in Canada... it's all cookie-cutter conformist bullshit
You can't have artists, writers, poets, musicians, etc., if no one can afford the privacy or time to actually do anything
The most interesting thing you can do in Canada is smoke pot...

I have multiple friends making over 100k/year and they're in their mid-30s still debating if they can afford to have children. What the fuck is everyone else with an average income supposed to do?
#Anonymous on May 28, 2019 :
The greedy and wealthy bureaucrats are shutting down archives of this website on the Wayback machine. Why do they fear the truth?
#Garth Turner Fanboy's fan on May 28, 2019 :
I have seen basements where not even a drug addict knocked out of his senses would want to live, yet they want 1,300 dollars a month. When I first came here in 2005, you could rent a room for 700 dollars near university avenue. Now, like you said, you cannot even get a closet.

Yesterday city council had a meeting, and they were worried about shadows in the backyard and heritage buildings. One guy tried to talk about people not being able to live here and they shut him down.

https://betterdwelling.com/canadian-housing-is-the-least-affordable-in-the-world-for-local-incomes/
#Ricky on May 28, 2019 :
People with no real ambition, dream or passion for life will do well in these Anglo countries. Come to Canada if survival is your main criteria. You should become a mindless zombie and a 24/7 work drone if you want to live in these hypocritical Anglo Saxon countries. The whole economy is a pyramid scheme that benefits the rich and corrupt. Next time you hear a Cunuck sing praises of Canada remind him of the plight of natives and genocide of their ancestors. Anglos are decedents of lying, land grabbing, money grubbing immoral thieves and criminals. And make no mistake the French thieves in Quebec are no better.
#Garth Turner Fanboy on May 27, 2019 :
@ My fan:

The government, both at a federal and provincial level, are finding ways to silently cut vital services such as healthcare and social assistance, while giving socialist kickbacks to the greedy elite and oligopoly corporation.

Even with the already low welfare of $700 a month for Toronto, this couldn't even rent a closet within a room these days. The going rate for a room inside a basement owned by a shady landlord who is also the 1%er would go for no less than $1,000 a month and require credit score checks or a guarantor.

Toronto is a city for the wealthy and greedy. Colleges such as Seneca, George Brown and Centennial have piss-poor job prospects, that employers are only offering jobs which are unpaid and work for free.
#Trinidad on May 27, 2019 :
I would reflect upon my six or seven years living in Toronto, and would subconsciously regret migrating here though I used to live in a “third world” Caribbean country.

What I would have changed was that I would have started to work in a factory or other low wage job from day one, save up as much as I can, and get the hell out of Toronto and Canada once I reach a certain level of income.

But no.

I thought that adapting and assimilating to this suburban middle class culture of Canada would have brightened my job prospects, income, stability and social standing. It was a waste of time!

I spent several years studying at what I later realized, was one of the most feminist campuses in Toronto. I worked hard to find my first job working in the university as a work study student, working for only a dollar higher than minimum wage (2014).

Could you believe the passive-aggressiveness that I experienced working as a non-white immigrant with a visibly Jamaican-ish sounding accent, and looking like a “Muslim” to boot (because Canadians think Muslim is a race).

These cakers were damn angry and envious that I got a work study job for a dollar higher than minimum wage, but if I was a tool and relied on welfare, they would still hate me.

A feminist complained that I made her feel uncomfortable & she did this anonymously that I did not know who complained, and what was exactly the issue. I was only warned that I should be careful of how I speak to women, as not all women are like certain co-workers who are okay with me.

This feminist worker spread a nasty rumour, and co-workers were avoiding me and I was being made to feel unwelcome. My mental state deteriorated, and this was because I was being mocked, criticized, and one time yelled at because of an anonymous complaint from a Canadian-born feminist co-worker.

I stayed until the contract ended, and I sent an email ranting at the due process of the university. I also complained that Afro-Caribbean female employees complained of racist aggression by certain Canadian female staff.

I was called into a meeting and the staff “feared” that I would “lash out” on campus [which implied that I was some sort of future school shooter, but I wasn’t in tune with the emotional outrage that Canada suffered a mass shooting back in 1989 at Polytechno in Montreal]. A senior male staff, a Jamaican, told me that (false allegations) happen, and that one time, he had to inform security on campus of a hysterical woman, a Canadian, threatening to create a scene, by yelling that he allegedly “raped her”. However, he was a senior staff. Security would respect him, despite the racist women in Toronto.

I was forced to consult mental health treatment, unaware that they were only interested in gathering evidence against me and using my mental state as a justification to imprison me or jail me or what not. I dropped out of that feminist hell hole, and wasted OSAP loans of tens of thousands of dollars.

A few years later, I am also penniless, one month away from homelessness, can only find a temporary job which forced me to sign as an “independent contractor” working for a corporation at the measly wage of $14 an hour, though I studied a few extra years to earn a degree.

My health—It’s that of a man in his 60s or 70s. I was healthy as an ox when I arrived to Canada at age 21, aside from nutritional deficiencies which were later improved upon.

This country is also going and copycatting the racism and xenophobia of the extreme Far Right movement of fascist Europe. Cakers used to be racist, but they wouldn’t act upon their violent fantasies, aside from the Neo-Nazi parties which were established in the 90s.

These days, a non-white has to fear harassment, violence and racist attacks by these cakers who have swallowed the Far Right propaganda hook, line and sinker. Even those considered liberal, such as gays, lesbians, tree huggers and animal rights activists are starting to become subtly racist against certain non-white groups.

Why the hell would you want to come here and suffer?
#Garth Turner Fanboy's fan on May 27, 2019 :
Not only is Toronto expensive, but Torontonians will look at people's "value", that is, how much money they earn. They have houses that in paper are worth millions. A secretary once said at the lunch table: "my friends are so rich with their cottages in Muskoka, but at least we are not dirt poor, we have a house". If you have 30k in savings, you are worth nothing to them. If you have less than that, do the math.

Don't believe the con-men and con-women who try to tell you all is good here. Healthcare might be free, but it is inefficient, and there are cuts coming on the way. Google hallway medicine, where patients have to wait 12 hours in the hallway of an ER. Even in Mexico you get better healthcare for 5 bucks, I was there as a tourist, and regretted all the life choices that chained me down to this hole of greed. The grass is greener in Toronto, because it is made of plastic, it will burn you if you slide on it. Don't forget you still have to pay for medicine. Numbeo, where is the stat for that?

Nothing will put you in a more vulnerable situation than not having decent options for housing, or work. The only thing you can get easily is volunteer jobs or debt on top of debt. If you manage to scrape a basement apartment and a toilet cleaning job, good luck getting dates. 50% of canadians are 200 dollars away from financial ruin, not trouble, ruin. The so called friends you will meet, will not help you when you are in need. "I have no space in my 2000 square feet cardboard mcMansion, but I can rent you an apartment for 3000 a month while you find a place!"

There are more and more horror stories from renters. Here is one from Vancouver, but just like with Bill Cosby, somethings take time to surface, so soon they will come out for Toronto:
https://www.straight.com/life/905756/renters-vancouver-first-i-just-assumed-he-was-being-really-friendly

If you are coming for a passport, listen to Garth Turner Fanboy, and prepare for those expenses. Make sure you do not get rear ended while driving, because if you have an accident and you are not at fault, your insurance goes up. Prepare for this if you really need this document, otherwise, save yourself. Try Europe, there's more humanity there, and if there is hate, at least they have the decency to tell you. Here they just pretend, but backstabbing is the way they roll.
#Garth Turner Fanboy on May 25, 2019 :
Cost of Living in Toronto as of May 25, 2019:

Rent for a one-bedroom apartment in downtown Toronto: $3,000/per month + utilities ($~3,500 in total)
Rent for a one-bedroom apartment in suburban borough: $1,700/per month +utilities (~$2,000 in total)

Food: $300 a month, way more if you depend on take out food.
Internet+ Cable: $50-100
Phone: $50-100
Car Insurance: $500+ per month for newcomer with no driving record in Canada.

This is for ONE PERSON. Multiply this by 1.5 for a family of 3, and 2 for a family of four.

Cleaning Canadian poop from toilets will pay at most $14 hour, which is poverty level wages, so you'd have to work almost 160 hours per month just to earn after tax, just to pay the rent and utilities, and employers will prevent you from working overtime even if you are forced to like cleaning poop and feces to survive in this city.

Leave your comfy office job in Asia, Latin America, Europe where ever, but please don't get angry at any of us who are warning you that you will be serving coffee or cleaning toilets here.
#Anonymous on May 25, 2019 :
Contrary to what Canadians are believing, but cleaning toilets and serving coffee at Tim Hortons as an educated immigrant with graduate degrees and decades of experience is not the life to live for.

Cleaning toilets, not even for your children and wife who will hate you because of the propaganda that they will learn here inevitably.

Toronto has spiraled into a decline for the middle class and lower income classes. On the other hand, money launderers and drug dealing credit card scammer pimps are partying their drug money by speeding down residential areas with their 2020 model race cars that would cost an entire mansion if it were bought down in Italy or Germany.

Many people live in fear in Toronto. The middle class fear of being one paycheck away of becoming homeless, or having to become victim of a drug dealing troublemaker who will cry racism if the police seize his duffel bag of drug money.

Working in Toronto is also a hell if you are a person from a conservative and patriarchal country as women here would love to be entertained by the money launderer or drug dealing pimp, but if you, the average working man, only is accused of looking at her inappropriately, there goes your job, even if you're cleaning toilets and the woman is a member of the public.

Canada turns a blind eye on those who bring in duffel bags and suitcases of drug and human trafficking money.
#Steve on May 24, 2019 :
Thanks for sharing your opinion Howard, I know 0 billions would fall for this scam if they had known what they were coming to. I wish they had honest people like you, who finally admit that this country has nothing to offer but financial ruin. Can you tell those people you are trying to con, how much you pay a year for taxes, and how much did your "home" cost you? How much does it cost now, and for how much are you planning to sell it to an unexpecting newcomer?

Cleaning toilets is nothing anyone should be ashamed of, as long as it provided a salary to sustain a decent life. But in Toronto, it does not. You will clean toilets for 14 dollars an hour, while you pay 13 dollars an hour just for rent. Then you add food, clothes, transportation... etc... you will be forever in debt. Torontonians are famous across Canada for being the rudest people in this country. They know how to bring people to this swamp, but once you are here, you are on your own. On top of that people like Howard will look down at you because you clean toilets. Hypocrites. If you go for a date, they will ask you where you live. If you say the wrong intersection, you are done. If you say the wrong profession, you are done.

I say this because I am a Torontonian myself, who has conned others into coming. Everything was well, until I got sick, and my boss harassed me out of my job. I used to run the show for him, and did killer presentations. But once you are down, Torontonians will kick you until you are out. I lost my house and everything, because here, there are no friends. Here, there is nothing but interest for money. If you don't make enough, you are doom. If you make enough, you are doom, because you will never be able to keep up with the Joneses.

The only freedom, is freedom to get more debt!
#Howard on May 24, 2019 :
Ignore the doomsayers and wet towels. They have a right-wing agenda to prevent immigration to this great land of ours.

Cleaning toilets should not be something to be ashamed of. You've risked everything to come to Canada, now embrace this great free land of ours.

Come to Canada my friends. This is a growing and developed country with some of the largest financial centers in the world such as this great city of Toronto. I'd rather clean toilets here than to work as a millionaire Director or CEO in the States, because healthcare is free in Canada.

You will not regret moving to Canada. Do you know how many billions would be happy to clean toilets in Toronto?
#Thinkman on May 24, 2019 :
2019/05/24
"Four-person family monthly costs: 4,835.15C$ without rent (using our estimator).
A single person monthly costs: 1,321.81C$ without rent."
Single person monthly costs 1330+1700 rent for an apartment in Jane and Finch= 3030 dollars. That means a 60K salary at a job place that takes away pension, just to be at 0 every month, or slightly under. But 60k jobs are not for newcomers. "You have to eat your bitter herbs", told me an incompetent manager with poor hygiene. So you are looking at minimum wage, or 2100 a month, which means each month, you'll be falling short 700 dollars. Don't overwork, because you might get deported for working more than what is allowed.
If you have a four person family and you work, you are looking at being under by over 4000 dollars per month. Prepare to do community service for mean spirited people who will hate you, and take your money away. By the way, community service is what criminals do, and your crime was not being born here.
This is a great city for speculators, or tax evaders, who hide away their fortunes in empty condos while declaring 0 world income. Or for money launderers who dump millions of Fentanyl money into real estate.
Even for Canadian born and grown, this city sucks. There are more horror stories coming. Here is an example from Vancouver, and I personally know people that went through this, but have not had the courage to speak yet, because they are under the landlords paws:
https://www.straight.com/life/905756/renters-vancouver-first-i-just-assumed-he-was-being-really-friendly

Toronto a world class city? Pffftttt! It cannot even balance its books.
#Anonymous on May 23, 2019 :
Educated newcomers, such as doctor and lawyer, should take note that janitorial jobs and Tim Hortons jobs are poverty-level, and will not help one gain experience in their fields.

Employers will not care of your "Canadian experience" cleaning yellow and green shit stains from the Canadian toilet bowl if you're aiming to work in your white collar fields. Canadian experience is a form of racism which prevents newcomers from using their international experience in competing with local uneducated and bigoted Canadians for jobs.

The average wage for janitor or Tim Hortons is $14/hr, but to rent a cockroach and rat infested apartment starts from $1,700 these days. You do the math. The rent is even higher if you have children, because by law, apartments are not allowed to cram an entire family into a one bedroom apartment.

[quote]Rates of low income among immigrants have been a concern in Canada since the 1990s, when they rose to historically high levels. Among recent immigrants—those who had been in Canada 5 years or less—the low-income rate rose from 25%Note 3 in 1980 to 36% by 2000, and then fell by about 8 percentage points by 2010. Among immigrants who had been in Canada for 11 to 15 years, the rate rose from 15% in 1980 to 23% by 2000, and then declined by a couple of percentage points by 2010 (Picot and Hou 2014).[/quote]
#Chevrolet Prefect on May 23, 2019 :
Thank you Carol and Hubert for clarifying the expectation of "Proud Canadians" like you, that newcomers will bring their engineering, law, medicine, masters degrees, to clean toilets, serve coffee for minimum wage, all while they pay for million dollar dumps that you purchased for less than 100k 30 years ago. Can you provide real and reputable evidence, other than self-serving, utterly deceitful mantras, and baseless self-compliments?
People come here to work full time, and to pay creditors while being on the red. For each dollar a newcomer earns, he/she owes 1.76, so you are basically in the minus. Earning enough to stay behind, but never to make it. It doesn't matter if you leave, you'll be replaced by a new fool.
Here is a beautiful article from none other than Stats Can. Enjoy!

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11f0019m/11f0019m2017397-eng.htm
#Johane Smith on May 23, 2019 :
Toronto is the place where you spend all your waking hours working to pay for the retirement of people like Hubert and Carol, entitled and arrogant sociopaths who dismiss hardships they have never endured. Probably real estate agents or benefiting from the insane prices as well, who never cleaned someone else's feces in public washrooms, specially when the stuff is all over the place. Proud Canadians who keep the myth alive, to extort money from gullible immigrants.
Look for a job before you come here, if you cannot find one, don't bother. If you find one, look for an apartment before you come, or else you will end in a dirty, mold infested basement and paying top dollars for it. Don't waste your talents in this awful city, it's not worth it. Crumbling infrastructure, worst traffic in north America, people shooting drugs on the TTC during daylight, and crumbling schools. You go out to a restaurant and the waiters are mad at you for not tipping 25%. Awful customer service.
"Hubert", ridiculing people who take medications for mental health is unacceptable. Perhaps it is you who needs a psychological assessment.
#Anonymous on May 22, 2019 :
So basically Canada lies to immigrants living abroad, lying about the country and job prospects, ensures that the cream of the crop leave their home countries...now hear this...

The best, highly educated and brightest immigrants leave their comfortable lifestyles to move to Canada...and come here to CLEAN TOILETS!

And the bigoted Canadian has the audacity to gaslight them by suggesting that it's "Canadian" to wipe bodily waste from toilets, ignoring the fact that these immigrants were lied to.

Who the hell wants to leave their affluent middle class lifestyle to clean toilets in Canada, and by Canada, it is actually Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver.
#Hubert on May 22, 2019 :
I have to agree with Carol.

Cleaning toilets or serving coffee for the night shift at Tim Hortons shouldn't be something to be ashamed about.

Toronto is a safe, livable, world-class and vivid city of culture, education, civilization and did I say it's the best world-class city in the world for families?

Cleaning "pee and poop" from toilets should be something one should be proud of working in this great city. One should be proud of their job. Cleaning poop from the toilets is a service to society. Cleaning poop from toilets is a JOB. A proud Canadian would never complain that they are wiping poop stains from the toilet bowl of their workplace.

Work does improve the quality and standard of health and well being for those who avoid negativity, such as most of you who post tin foil conspiracy theories of organized crime in real estate or landlords forcing women to strip for rent payment. Pffftttt. Get your meds.
#Anonymous on May 20, 2019 :
Toronto "best city in the world"? Read the comments under this article.
https://landlopers.com/2013/07/22/visit-toronto

But, let me guess, more Russian agents, right?
#Anonymous on May 20, 2019 :
Is this propaganda too?Is the person interviewed a Russian agent?
https://www.straight.com/article-271917/vancouver/many-depressions-part-life-canada

Tell the highly qualified engineer that working the night shift at Tim Hortons "ennobles his spirit".

People are lured to Canada by false promises which rarely materialise.Nobody comes here dreaming of cleaning toilets, no matter how poor their home country is.
#Carol Smith on May 20, 2019 :
Excuse me!

What is it with all of the negative comments here?

Cleaning toilets and sidewalks is a job, is a job, is a job.

Work ennobles the human spirit, and working as a janitor in Canada is desirable than working in a poorer country.

Toronto is a growing, world-class city and the rents are competitive. Get over this!

What if some newcomers prefer to clean toilets for living in the best city in the world?

Gosh, I shut inform my department to shut down this website for Russian propaganda.

I'm signing my name to this comment, unlike many of you who use pseudonyms and anonymity to spread false news. Spreading false news is also a crime in Canada, just so you know...
#Canada Dry on May 19, 2019 :
Renting prices are way more than $1,200 for a one-bedroom in Toronto. Low interest rates and money laundering have jacked up house prices in Toronto.

The actual cost for a 1-bed apartment goes from $2,500+ anywhere within a 15 mile radius (Bathurst to Woodbine, and harbor front to St. Clair/Eglinton) of the downtown core, and from $1,700 in the suburban parts of Toronto such as North York and Scarborough.

If you're a middle class person with a family, you're going to have to rent an apartment with more rooms, and you would have to pay $2,000+/monthly to live in North York or Scarborough, which is a longer commute.

To pay for this rent is out of the question because some have lamented here that people are competing to be employed for free and with no salary. Toronto is getting harder and harder to live by.

You will suffer here. Please don't contemplate and cope that you're doing this for your family. So you're going to leave your middle class job back home, to migrate to Canada to clean toilets and sweep floors for the rest of your life?
#Don on May 17, 2019 :
"It is accurate, but nasty comments are spoiling your reputation."

too funny. This landlord is offended because you spoke the truth, and this landlord wants this blog owner to censor you. Just so they can exploit you for profit unimpeded.

Truth is folks, manufacturing jobs have gone to technology a long time ago. Now the service industry, AND the white collar industry are beginning to see their livelihoods gone to technology as well. Wont be long, in your kids lifetime likely, that most of us will no longer need to work.

Problem is, the politician pretend this paradigm is a success, that we can have a society based on work to live, while there is no longer the work to live on.

When the bought and paid for politicians promise you jobs? He is a liar. Jobs are going to tech, and there is no stopping it. What we need to stop is the idea that it is OK for a few to feed on the rest, in the interest of self interest.

We can live without debt and without servitude, by allowing technology to free us, rather than be used to enslave us further than the debt already does.
#Anonymous on May 17, 2019 :
If you have less than 50-60k per year as a single person, then life is bad.
2,000 for 1 bdr in a city center? No. Studio is close to 1,900 in a decent building which is not a bed bugs center.

I am able to spend less than 1,000 per month on my own (including paying for phone, internet and TV) but to get this, I am going out 1-2 times per month, make coffee on my own, cook for myself, bake a bread for myself and if want a drink to it in home with friends. I managed to have hydro bills around 30 CAN by literally sitting in a dark. Still, can't save a lot of money as all I have goes to travel to see my family. Of course no dental care, no medical care only OHIP.
#Randy on May 16, 2019 :
Toronto made it to the documentary, The Push, which you should check out if you want to move here. This city should get a warning, you might lose all that you have, sign. When a 55 year old man, Toronto born and grown, loses his job because they want to pay someone fresh off school half, that is a very sad day. The worse part is when landlords claim they are moving in, and now that man is stuck in this city, held hostage by credit. Cannot even get an LCBO job, because the only positions available pay 16 bucks. What can you afford with that? No humanity, only number, really high numbers. Tell everyone that you see and know the truth. Stop conning innocent workers into RE debt.
#Bob Singer on May 14, 2019 :
Welcome to Toronto, the place where you work 40 hours a week, volunteer 20 hours, and invest 40 hours on a frozen highway for 8 months or so. Don't work too hard with your colleagues noticing, or they will harass you and use racial epithets that do not exist in Canada. This is the country of diversity, everyone is equal, but some Torontonians are more equal than others. Do you have a PhD? Great, you can learn to make double double very fast. The homeowner cleaners will be forever richer than you (at least on paper), because they spend 2000-4000 a year on housing they inherited. You will spend well over 24,000 for one person renting, or way more if you have a family. After taxes, whatever you earn will not be enough, so you will need a second or even third job. But the best part, is you can get credit very easily. The banks love giving credit away. Now you owe 100,000, so you cannot leave. Instead of Hotel California, it is Hotel Toronto, where if you fail, you end up homeless and destroyed.
#Anonymous on May 10, 2019 :
Toronto has become a mafia state, where debtors are threatened by TPS cops in what should be a civil matter (small claims courts)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/police-charged-extortion-threats-1.5132233

The rich landowners and bourgeois elite live in luxury in Toronto, while the debtors and serfs live in an open-air prison of political correctness and police force on individual rights.

Toronto is descending down into a spiral of feudalism. Landlords treating female bodies as chattel, debtors being threatened by armed thugs wearing a badge (police), and wages stagnating and jobs very hard to find.
#Ricky on May 10, 2019 :
@Leanne Thanks for shedding light on this issue. Being a man had no idea the dirty tricks these landlords get upto. Truly a sick place but these Canucks are skillful in spreading rosy propaganda and lies about their country. The fact is that Canada will never have a shortage of 3rd world people willing to immigrate here and work menial jobs. The immigrants already here don't convey the hard reality of living in Canada to their countrymen back home so the wheel keeps spinning and foreign money keeps rolling in for the government.
#Leanne on May 10, 2019 :
Tell everyone that asks about Toronto the truth. Let this city become a total empty Airbnb ghost hotel, filled with Landlords competing against each other. It is not worth your time, talent, and life. Toronto has no identity? It does, and it is the face of greedy landlords and heavy handed police. But they hide it behind anything else. Ikea Monkey, chair girl, any distraction will work from the housing catastrophe. This is a city where more than 100 people literally freeze in the streets. Stop calling yourselves world class city, Toronto is world class pity.

There are more and more articles showing the true nature of landlords. Here below, a landlord asking for disgusting requisites: "He and his roommate, Brianna Love, also an actor and writer, have applied for dozens of apartments and gone to showings with more than a hundred people present. Ms. Love had one particularly unsettling experience. “I saw a place, the smallest two-bedroom you could ever see, and the man showing the apartment said: ‘If you’re interested, there are a lot of applications in front of you. You’d have to do something pretty special to move up the list,’“ Ms. Love said. Non-plussed, she demanded to know what he meant by the remark. “I still don’t know if he was asking for money or sex. … He put up his hands and said, ‘I don’t know, I don’t know. Just saying if you want the place.’“
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/article-whens-the-worst-time-to-find-a-rental-in-toronto-right-now/

I have friends who have gone through that, but unless you can hire an overpriced lawyer, you don't have rights. Newcomers have no rights, if they work at Tim Horton's, have a subsistence living, and cannot take time off to fight landlords or awful bosses and pay for expensive lawyers. I had a friend who had to rent an awful place for 1500, and she had to undress in a room that had weird holes in the wall. She did it in the dark, but does it matter? There's something called night vision.

I lived in a basement, that was damp, moldy, and plain awful, to save some money. The landlord used to open the door on me accidentally, and curiously after having shower noises. They don't care about people, only numbers, only money, only about socialism for the ultra-rich, and bone hard capitalism for the middle. Some very poor win the affordable housing lottery and live off welfare for the rest of their lives, but that is a very small number. Usually the only happy people that will vote liberal or conservative for the rest of their lives, and their 4-8 children will follow.

#Torontoisfailingus, #Torontoisafailedcity, spread the truth!
#Anonymous on May 09, 2019 :
"They don't care about families, because they just keep substituting people with new comers."

Bingo.
Even if Toronto cannot create an environment where people can start families and live normal lives, it's OK because we can just replace the population.

Toronto does not care about its population (and doesn't have to) and sees them merely as economic units.
#Rocky on May 09, 2019 :
70% is the passing mark for some prestigious universities. 50% is the passing mark for mediocre. At 1% (or 33% if you count the paper house rich, cash poor), Toronto is a failed city. I have started letting everyone that asks me about it the truth. When the median income cannot afford rent, and the only way to get a house is a lottery, the city has failed. There is no diversity for governance or power in Toronto. Look at the pictures of the mayors that greet you at the airport. The only diversity they like, is of money; legal, illegal, it does not matter. If it can buy an overprice, overcrappy house, it's all good! but once you buy it, get out. You can airbnb families out of this failed city, that is acceptable.
#Anonymous on May 08, 2019 :
"Toronto Landlords are the worse people you can ever meet. They will put a family with small children on the streets in the blink of an eye. They rent out places in bad shape, specially basements, for stratospheric prices. Now there is a new phenomenon of some of them asking sex on top of money. This city is middle age style. Beware the Torontonians."

This is deeply concerning as many rental ads have asked for only female applicants, but I didn't know that the female applicants had to offer their bodies to the Landlord, whether it was consensual or not, maybe the latter. I thought it was an urban tale that in a post-feminist country such as Canada, where woman have too many rights, that women would have to give up their bodies to greedy Landlords.

But this is a monster of their own making as the City officials, the non-profits, the politicians and some could say the females themselves are part of the problem by allowing this to happen (having to offer their bodies on top of extra-high rents in Toronto).

I clearly remember a few years ago an American Pick Up Artist named Roosh V being vilified by Toronto citizens for mocking the idea of legalizing rape on private property. Several elected officials, including Mayors of several Canadian cities, denounced Roosh V and called for mob violence against him and his adherents.

This is 2019, and it's a shame that the same elected officials who vilified a pick up artist for joking against rape culture... Politicians who have turned a blind eye on Landlords who rape women on their property as a condition for rent!
#Valleyoftears on May 07, 2019 :
49% people in Toronto have mental issues. They make the others believe, that paying a million dollars, or getting in debt for life for a dumpy house that spends 8 months surround by ice, is normal. They make the people who come here believe, that working for free to gain canadian experience, is normal. Usually, there is one guy doing all the real work, while the homeowners relax having coffee and complain that the person working is not a team player. I have wasted 15 years of my life that I am not getting back. It is good to read real reviews about this world crap city.
#Gary Edwards on May 06, 2019 :
I work at the Princess Margaret Hospital, or PMCC now, and I struggle to pay rent with 90k income. People like me wasted 10 years of their lives, working non-stop, while those who control prices and rents just kept cranking up the heat. We got "cooked", like the frog in the pot, because did not think about jumping out. Now, I struggle to find a part time job. There is nothing in the evenings, and there is all kinds of people applying for minimum salary. Toronto fails families, specially when there are two working parents. They don't care about families, because they just keep substituting people with new comers. If the newcomers cannot tolerate living in a bad area, where crime is high and infrastructure is broken, too bad, there are 110,000 coming next year. Somebody should sue the city for misrepresentation of quality of life. And pollution? Air quality is awful. There are so many empty buildings and packed highways, smog is really bad in summer. There are no quality controls for disposing things into lake Ontario. There are no bylaws preventing bio hazardous materials being thrown into it. And then people drink that water. If you are planning to come, keep that in mind. The sewage is so outdated, you can see sanitary pads and tampons floating on the lake when there is heavy rain.
#Ted Baker on May 06, 2019 :
Let us look at reality, and imagine a perfect ideal situation for coming to Toronto, based on my story and the ones of people around me. Person X from Y country applies to a job which offers 80K, recognizes his/her credentials (1 out of 10 chances), pays the Canadian average, and gets the offer. Comes, and starts renting a 1 bedroom for 2,600 a month which for downtown, is a really good price. After taxes, TTC, food, insurance, that lives him/her with 0 dollars a month for saving out of the 4000 paycheck after contributions to his/her pension and benefits plan. Not bad, he/she is not going into debt at least. The place is in Fort York, which has become a ghost airbnb hotel, so there are loud parties every weekend and sometimes weekdays, with the occasional shooting. Nothing to shabby, back "home" there were more shootings, although food was cheap and good, and he/she had lots of friends for emotional support, as well as family. He/she lives alone, and makes no connection, as 1/2 of this city can attest.
All of a sudden, the landlord, a medieval powerful entity who truly enjoys life in this wonderful city, comes back and takes the place back. He/she has two months during which he/she does not find anything, is forced to a hotel, racking up debt at 5000 dollars a month, while fighting desperately to find a new place. No one wants to take him or her for less than 3000, unless he/she is willing to move to the suburbs, which he does. Then he is late for work, because there are always accidents and other issues with GTA failing infrastructure. He/she gets fired, even though he/she was the hardest working person in the team doing the work for all the baby boomers who retired, then came back to suck more out of the system. Those boomers look at him/her down, and think he/she does not have a home because of their inferior (add descriptor here) When they find out he/she is out of work, they offer a house for rent, for only 4000 a month. They hired someone off the street who knows nothing of his/her job, and screws up big time. They blame it on him/her.
Now he/she has to work at timmy's coffee shop for minimum wage, and live in a crummy apartment in Dufferin and king, surrounded by cockroaches and bedbugs that bite him/her at night. That is, until he/she gets evicted again, because the area has become hip (gentrification!) and they will be renovating the whole building. The new price tag will be 3000 a month. Debt keeps piling up, he/she cannot pay it back, and it is all to much until one day....

Toronto is a wonderful city!
(come at your own risk)
#Flint on May 05, 2019 :
Canada seems to entice and lure middle and upper class immigrants using well-packaged propaganda, while censoring dissent or complaints that the Canadian immigration system is a farce and a trick to lure global capital into an oligopoly backwater economy.

Local Canadians will be nice to you if you plan on buying their overpriced plywood Toronto house for over a million dollars, but expect them to stab you in the back if you plan on living there. This is why local Canadian nationalist groups haven't targeted wealthy Chinese money launderers because they only buy the condo or house and then move to a different location.

But if you plan on buying a house and live there, expect to be harassed by local Canadians who will tell you all sorts of racist stuff and generalize & also accuse you of being a refugee or illegal immigrant. They will also tell you to go back to your home country though you moved to Canada legally.

Local Canadians resent immigrants who plan on finding a job and using the social services of the country. They only want your money to invest in condos.

Jobs are also hard to find, even factory and toilet cleaner jobs. Toronto doesn't have enough jobs for everyone.
#Martin on May 04, 2019 :
Anonymous on May 04, only a certain group of people are being employed in the Bay St. finance sector.

An immigrant with local or European ACCA qualifications will be shut out from this career field. I've heard of immigrants who were ACCA Members, cleaning toilets for years because their ACCA credentials were not recognized by employers or CPA Canada.

The poor have to risk their lives traveling in a subway system which doesn't have extra capacity in the case of an emergency:
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/05/04/scarborough-rt-fleet-reached-critical-vehicle-shortage-last-month.html