Cost of Living in Toronto

"Lucas Silverman wtf r u talking about European countries that are far right? Modern Europe is probably the most liberal place that has ever existed in world history.

You people need to get a grip

What I've noticed these days is that any website, blog or comments section which criticize the actual reality of Toronto is automatically shut down and censored.

It's a new observation that those who censor also support Ponzi-like schemes from MLM-like companies. It makes me wonder if Toronto is based on a MLM or Ponzi scheme, luring gullible immigrants to liquidate everything back home to transfer to Canada.

Anyways...Good luck renting in Toronto when the Landlords ask for so many requirements to rent a partition inside a room, located in the basement level for a whooping $1,000 a month!

Agenda 21 is in play here, and immigrants seem to forget that 90% of Canadians live in cities, while the rest of land is prohibited for residential construction.

Why risk your dignity to migrate to Toronto and end up living like second-class citizens?

Canada is unlike the USA where one has to have a job offer from an employer, and also assimilate to the country before moving there.

It seems that cities such as Toronto bring in the worst trash, and encourage anti-intellectualism through political correctness, while creating an Overton window of the far-left and the far-right. There is no balance of opinions in Toronto.

As a non-white Canadian immigrant, you will be viewed as a rapist by the white females, and the white men will harass and beat you up and call you racial slurs that aren't even attributed to you. The police will leave you there to get beaten up, and when you defend yourself, you will be arrested and there goes your prospects for being hired.

Canada brings in immigrants from far-right European countries, which increase anti-immigrant sentiment, so good luck thinking that cities such as Toronto are tolerant utopias.

The local Canadian will view you as an uneducated barbarian and discriminate against you in jobs, while the far right European immigrant will yell racist slurs and accuse you of being a Muslim when you could be a vegetarian Hare Krishna devotee.

Toronto is becoming one crazy asylum where only the lowest common denominator are allowed to live their way of life whether it be an Islamic extremist or a Hitler admirer vandalizing temples, mosques and synagogues. Bad place.

Shut up you incel!

Mods, can you ban Anonymous on Jul 12, 2019 and save a copy of his comment for a police investigation?

Welcome to Toronto Mauricio and Akash. You are very lucky to have been given a chance to live in our great country of Canada.

Toronto is ranked #1 as best city in the world for women, young adults and for families. Toronto is a great city with lots of restaurants, cultures, food and a quality of life which isn't compared to other world class cities.

Akash, if you're looking for a job, Billy Wong of Primerica Financial Services, an insurance company, will be happy to hire you based on your work experience.

Contact Billy Wong and he will set you up with a job at Primerica.

Helo everyone, I receive an offer to migrate to Canada as PR. I'm planning to live in Toronto with my wife and daughters (age 5 and 8).

I pass the points system and my consultant has said that I will find a job in my field here. I work as a Chief Financial Officer at a multi-national company in Singapore. My annual pay is in American dollars= $115,000 yearly.

How much money do CFOs earn in Canada? I have $65,000 in liquid assets and my consultant advised me to sell all of my property, valued $185,000 because the cost of living is higher in Toronto. How long will $250,000 US dollars last for a family of four in Toronto, and can I buy a house there?

I don't mind volunteering for a few weeks to get my work experience verified.

Thanks!

Akash Patel

Volunteering is an investment for your future career. Ignore those who have a personal vendetta against Canada. You have to prove yourself to employers by volunteering at the company, and you will later get hired.

This is not anything to argue about because volunteering and doing unpaid work are the standard as every job here is competitive and Toronto is a world class city.

If you want the easy way out, please go to the States. There's a million of people who want to live in Canada, every single day, and working for free or volunteering is one way to obtain a job.

You have to show Canadian employers that you are employable in your fields. Why should they hire you over a locally born Canadian?

Volunteer and see your career prospects improve significantly! You will gain a network of colleagues and employers who will later hire you!

Volunteer for the first year of your arrival in Toronto. It's the only way to show Canadian employers that you are a Canadian employee!

in my experience growing up in toronto, the only way to make it is to get into either finance or medical, or to know people, and even then it might not be enough

a friend of mine makes over 100k and his wife makes around 80k ... and all they can afford in toronto is a townhouse.. with no backyard, no big rooms, and not even a basement...

if the upper-middle class in toronto are living worse off than my parents, who never even went to college, and also struggled on one-income for years due to health issues, there is something horribly wrong going on here

how is toronto considered 'the greatest city in the world' when the most educated and hardest-working people can barely afford to have families?

and where does that the leave the majority of torontonians, who are working average or below-average jobs despite their education and credentials?

Another commentator: "Toronto is a wealthy city and Toronto needs you."

No. You need us, but we don't need more people.

Housing has tripled because of the insane immigration policy, and years of saving are now useless.

I am planning to move to Canada with my wife and 2 infants. What should be my minimum monthly earning after all deductions to survive?

Ashley is another of the many snowflakes and FAR LEFT people plaguing and holding back Toronto and Canada. They don't acknowledge the realities and issues, so that is why improvements are not done or achieved. Borderline communism, shutting down people whose views are either reality, or just different than their own. Yet they go around acting so worldly and open. Ashley, if you are a proud Canadian, you would look out for your own fellow countrymen first, because many are struggling or have lack of opportunity including facing extreme rent and real estate for the true worth.

The reality is Canada including Toronto doesnt have much going in it, so there is no point for much immigration anymore. Stop telling people abroad that it's so great in Canada, because you are just setting them up for disappointment and you are contributing to BRAIN DRAIN and a larger carbon footprint (pollution). Canada is not a "go-get" place, that would be the United States. There is a saying these days "Toronto - where innovation goes to die".

Employers are actually charging money from job seekers.

If someone from India, a country that has an average GDP per capita of US$2,000 could afford to pay $30,000 to an Immigration Consultant for employment, then I believe that many of those claiming that they are scammed are part of the problem.

The average Canadian doesn't have $30,000 to spare. They don't even have an extra $300 in life savings.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-employers-taking-cash-from-foreign-workers-seeking-permanent-resident/

What you hear:
Before you come: Canada has a great quality of life! come to enjoy diversity, healthcare, education, and social services! Bring all your savings, sell everything!
After you come: you don't have canadian experience, you are overqualified, 3000 dollars a month is the going rate, you need to volunteer, we are doubling the rent next month and you are evicted. If you can't handle the overheated housing market, get out of Tranna (Toronto, with the typical local accent)!
Big fish eat little fish. Big fish has one million dollars to live in this city, and they eat those who work 2 3 jobs to make ends meet. The invisible hand of capitalism has no humanity, and values only cold, hard, electronic or real cash/assets. You cannot say you have not been warned.

#Carol Smith, I guess you are one of the government people who loves censoring any negative comments as many of the users complain about? You realize that your actions are only supporting their points right? Why are you going to send a legal notice to the mods? For allowing free speech?

I wish this comment space existed when I was considering coming to Toronto.

Let me tell you about my conditions:
History:
I have a world class education, and I mean top #5 in global rankings. I worked at Bulge Bracket investment banks in London, UK. The ones that don't even have an office in Canada. I don't want to look down on anyone. But we were not even applying to RBC. My classmates who stayed at London are making GBP 500,000 a year.
What did I do? I got sentimental. I got married. I looked for an alternative, non capitalist life style, where I would be valued for things other than my status and my salary. And I immigrated to Toronto. Boy, I was wrong.

Finding a job:
This is a mad house, with closed borders. International names mean jack shit here. You can be an Harvard or a Stanford MBA grad. No sir. UofT, Waterloo, Queens grads take precendence over you. Because they know people who are hiring. Applying through web portals are equivalent of throwing your CV down the trash. And I mean it. I have been on both ends of the spectrum (job seeker and hirer).
Employers complain about lack of good talent, but they are full of shit. They don't want to hire newcommers. I guess they fear that we come from the jungle and we'd take our dicks out in the middle of the office.
Lack of "Canadian experience". You know what that means? That means mediocracy. That means, all you talk about is your super-boring-BlogTO-guided-weekend, or the food you eat. That means, rather than giving constructive feedback, you gots to play politics (see shitsandwhich). That means that even if you do something good, you got to send a post on LinkdedIn in this format: "Incredibly humbled to be part of this great community. So proudoud to help (insert bullshit capitalist cause). Thank you @(another bullshiter#1) (another bullshither from whom you want a job) for organising this great night. #givingback)"

My living conditions:
- 70,000 / year salary for first 6 months
- 84,000 last 6 months
- 2 person family (wife don't work)
- living in St. Clair & Yonge
- 50 sqm 1+1 apt with no washing machine
- 1,850 / month rent

I save $0. (no retirement benefits). I don't have a car. I eat outside once a week at a cheapy restaurant.

My friends: work friends who listen to fcking Drake and the most intellectual book that they've read is Sapiens.

I was getting depression treatment and had an eye surgery just before coming here. You want to know how long it took me to see a doctor?
- 3 months to get OHIP (state health program)
- 1 month to find a family doctor
- 3 months to get a referral to a shtty resident psyciatrist
- 6 months to get a referral to an eye expert

I am in my 13th month, and still waiting for some referrals.

Healthcare sucks. Education is paid through the real estate (good schools are in good neighborhoods that costs more). There is no state funded retirement plan.

This is the reality folks.

If you want culture and a social state --> Europe
If you want money and career --> USA

Whatever you do, don't fucking come here.

There is one big expense missing, amount paid to service debt.

Global news says that the average Canadian household was using a record 14.9 per cent of its disposable income to meet debt obligations, Statistics Canada said on Wednesday. They call this, crushing debt. So after you pay OSAP and credit cards, you owe 1.78 dollars for each dollar you earn. So basically you are in the minus for the privilege of surviving in Toronto.

I have worked in recruiting people, and I have never seen hundreds of resumes as I do now. Yet, the most qualified will not be chosen, but the ones who want to do the job at the lowest price. It's like a wall-martification process. Canadians who paid big bucks for education are not even considered, neither foreign students who paid double or triple for Canadian education. Often, a person with a foreign university that was funded by their government accepts a low-ball offer, and they are in. Even if you get a job in your field which you do by volunteering months or years, it is not enough. 90K in Toronto does not guarantee rent, food, and transportation.

How come other forms of entertainment are not included here? (hockey tickets go for 200 dollars or more, opera for 100 or so, theater for 50 or more...)

Those fraudsters who keep telling others to come just want Real Estate money, and have no scruples on how to get it. Show reputable sources of info, not just half-baked lies your RE agent told you.

Reno-victions are rampant, and basement apartments are going for higher than 1500 these days. I don't remember seeing 1750 apartments in Toronto lately, they go for at least 1850.

People are starting to react, but I am afraid it is too little, too late:

https://globalnews.ca/news/5397306/canada-immigration-poll/

Canada's (Mass) Immigration System is a scam. It exists first and foremost to inundate the country with cheap labour, so businesses such as realtors and corporations can maximize their profits. The excess of workers depresses the wages, while increasing rental prices. Supply and demand... That is very basic economics.

You will be paying $1,500 a month to rent a room inside a basement, while your pay will be minimum wage.

Employment statistics are purposely distorted by the government in order to avoid panic and keep the scam going. The reality is that most immigrants are either unemployed or underemployed (dead end warehouse jobs, part time janitor jobs, casual jobs, no benefits, no vacations, etc).

Of course, Canadians born in Canada are also badly affected by unemployment/underemployment brought about by this scam, but they remain strangely passive regarding the problem of mass immigration. It is estimated that 40% to 60% of immigrants leave Canada for good within 10 years after their arrival.

Unfortunately, when they finally wake up to the fact that immigration to Canada is actually a nightmare, they have wasted years of their professional life & savings, and it is often quite difficult or impossible to start over when they decide to go back to the old country.

Many got chronically depressed. Some even commit suicide. Others get ill and die quietly in poverty. To the system it doesn't matter. It's an inhuman machine driven by corporations that control the government. Basically, that is the dirty truth about today's Canadian immigration system.

Ignore many of these negative comments. Toronto is a great city and we need immigrants.

Work, whether paid or unpaid, is good for the human spirit. No job is a dead end job here in Toronto. This is a city which is competitive and ranked #1 city in the world.

Moderators, please provide us a mailing address for us to direct a legal notice to your legal department.

The high costs of this city have de-humanized the rich, and the poor. There is a gaping inequality and it is about to get worse. The richt are upset, because they fell entitled to 20% increases in property value, which are not happening anymore so they raise rents. The middle is so squeezed into debt, that the anger is noticeable. I have never read so many negative comments for a city, but this one takes the cake. Council is useless, divided on a majority of councillors who would sell their own mothers for profit, and the minority who have a not in my backyard mentality, do not care about people losing their incomes to rent, and think their ten year plan will solve things for them politically. They know the middle does not count because they can't vote as they are too busy commuting. Let them lose everything and leave, that is the message.

A reliable source which proves that working for free is the new minimum wage in Toronto:

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/globe-investor/personal-finance/unpaid-interns-working-for-free/article590498/

God curse those Canadian Boomers who only have a Grade 8 education, but have today become millionaires because of their paper worth of their real estate bubble. Boomers in their 60s making 10000% profit on their homes and living in luxury in Costa Rica, while enabling policies back in Toronto to make young people work for free while renting a moldy basement furnace room for $1,000 or even more a month, and on top paying for heat and electricity.

Canadian whistle blower Valerie Guillaume has videotaped several instances of people living in the furnace room of a rooming house in Toronto. It's that dire.

The powers that be are deliberately understating the actual housing and food prices to deceive newcomers. They wouldn't migrate to Toronto if they knew that they would be working for free, while exhausting their life savings, at least $25,000 yearly to live in a basement apartment filled with toxic mold, pests, mice and radon.

Regarding "volunteers",Cambridge Dictionary descried volunteer as "willingly and without being forced".

What you are describing is people working for free, with the hopes of getting a job in Toronto, being coerced with threats of "job loss" and "unemployment" by a greedy Manager/Employer who is extorting them for monetary gain, such as free coffee.

Food, phone and rent prices are grossly understated on this forum.

Even Dollar Store bread is $2.25, and inching towards $2.50.

The slum lords here would charge you $1,800 for the privilege to rent a rat infested cockroach nest which still use appliances and infrastructure from the 1950s and 1960s.

Everything is a scam in Toronto, and don't expect a good paying job unless you are part of the club who live in mansions at Bride Path, Forest Hill and Leaside.

To be honest, the work for free after graduation scam is commonplace in Toronto. This is how desperate graduates are, to work for free when they have tens of thousands in student loans to repay.

A British-trained accountant and his bookkeeper wife have launched a lawsuit against the federal government, alleging they were misled by Canadian immigration officials who assured them they'd have no trouble finding professional jobs to support their family in Canada.

The couple -- Selladurai (Prem) Premakumaran is a native of Sri Lanka, and his wife Nesamalar is from Malaysia -- spent 22 years in Britain before learning that their fluency in English, along with their education and professional credentials, made them eligible to live and work in Canada.

But since their arrival in 1998, neither has been able to use their training.

The formerly middle-class family of six is living in a cramped two-bedroom basement apartment. The parents have had to clean toilets, shovel snow and borrow money from their 15-year-old son to pay the bills.

@Former Scarberian: spread the word, and ask other people to post real wages in Numbeo, at least minimum because they will not take 0 for an answer even when it is real and even when some people actually pay to work. If you have not posted real prices for this greed hole, please do so. This is what Tronno is coming to. It is a dyson vacuum for newcomer money.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-employers-taking-cash-from-foreign-workers-seeking-permanent-resident/

And diversity? Go to city hall, to the council meetings. There's more diversity at a tiki torch rally in south Carolina than there. Just look at the mayors of the GTA that greet you when you come to Pearson airport. Real diversity only at Timmy's coffee.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/toronto-woman-yells-racial-slurs-at-a-driver-in-an-intense-road-rage-incident/ar-AACuT1h

Tranna has a high quality of life, for slumlandlords, of course. 1300 for a one bedroom, means that, one bedroom rent, not the whole apartment. You can find those prices too in basements, filled with mold and never tested for radon. The faster you realize that rents are meant to be economically crippling, to ensure conformity (poor people cannot afford to complain), the better the life is for those hoarding 2, 3, 4 or more properties.
Canada fell from the top 10 HDI countries back in 2013. Now we are probably approaching the levels of Guatemala for HDI.
Keep coming to Tranna, I want to buy a ferrari with your rent money.
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/canada-falls-out-of-top-10-in-uns-human-development-index/article9758218/

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/hindu-priest-abuse-allegations-1.4485863

"Temporary Foreign Worker permit holders are restricted to work with one employer in Canada.

"Their ability to stay in Canada and make a living is completely dependent on that one employer. So if that one employer is treating them badly, whether in terms of working conditions or employment standards, they have very little real recourse because they can't leave that job," said No."

Toronto is too expensive to have rights. If your employer treats you badly, and you are on a work permit, you have to live with it, or leave without it. Get informed before you come, and if you are already here, beware. Your ideas will be welcome, and you will be given a false hope that you can succeed. But you can't, money is the only success here, and if you don't get more, you are going to live in squalid conditions for the rest of your life. The average rate of a lawyer is 200 dollars an hour, which you have to pay because you have to have a job otherwise they will kick you out. While unemployed people get legal aid, which is kind of useless, you have to pay to have rights. Numbeo, can you include prices for lawyers too?

They love taking 20,000 a year for tuition, but once you finish your college diploma or university, they will pay you 0 dollars a year, because you don't have experience, and your last name is not Ford, or Layton or Trudeau.

Toronto is not becoming a rip-off for those who are not part of the club, Toronto was always a rip-off for those who are not part of the club. The first nations were ripped off their land, and thrown some booze to them to compensate. That is why it's just a midget city of 2.8 million people, not 10 million like real world class cities.

The people of the city are so welcoming before you arrive to Pearson airport but after that it is like someone turns on the taximeter, everything costs two, three, or as in housing, twenty times more than other real first world cities. The wages are inadequate and the governance incompetent, you can see people sleeping in bus shelters on regular basis and if you sacrifice your personal and family life for a promotion, it will come with a 100 dollar increase every two weeks, that's it, nothing more. All this while your rent will go up by 400 or more because there are no caps for rent increases on properties built after 1990 or something like that. If you have a job and they kick you out of your apartment you will have to go to a hotel at 160 or 200 per night. After ten nights you are down by 2000 dollars.
Numbeo, can you please include dentist costs? those are insanely expensive. And for those nasty torontonians who make fun of people with mental issues like some in the comments below, psychotherapy is around 200 dollars an hour you should consider it if you take pleasure on others people's pain. Fines, there should be a section for fines as they are insane, parking fines, speeding fines, there is one for 2000 to 10,000 for going 50 km over the limit. So beware, in this city you are one fine, one disease, one dentist (not covered by your plan) away from financial ruin.

https://www.cp24.com/news/montreal-aims-to-find-affordable-housing-fix-that-has-eluded-toronto-vancouver-1.4447927

Key take-away from this article: "As Toronto and Vancouver struggle to keep housing affordable for anyone but the wealthy"

If you are not wealthy, million dollars plus cash in your pocket plus another million, you will not find affordable, decent housing in Toronto. Basements rent for 2400 in the city. Living in the suburbs is a commuting sentence, and there is no life other than the time spent on transportation or the car. Bosses do not tolerate lateness, even when it is not your fault. Hardship, debt, and false hope is what Toronto offers to newcomers.

Tax avoidance is totally legal. Toronto was an excellent place for that, but no more!
They started biting the hands that feed, in the name of human rights or international agreements. People's daily said, do not say we did not warn you. What kind people jails innocent cancer survivors? We played by the rules and won, you can't change the rules when the game is going happening.
Free Meng Wanzhou!

"Toronto is the greatest world-class city in the world" rotflol!

That comment is Post-truth, total and utter Post-truth backed by no data: "relating to or denoting circumstances in which objective facts are less influential in shaping public opinion than appeals to emotion and personal belief."

The people that write things like that, reflect their abysmal lack of knowledge, and keep repeating this to themselves because there are more cracks surfacing on this big lie.

As an american who came here for the "better quality of life", I can attest this city is overpriced, a cultural backwater, and has nothing to offer to hard working individuals but an expectation to do even more until they burn out. In the US you work hard, you get money thrown at you. Here? You get more work, and yelled at because you ask for a promotion. Only those who hoarded land, apartments and houses can talk about how good the living is. They are paying 300 dollars a month for the right to a permanent place, while extracting 2000-3000 from renters. How is that going to let you move ahead?

But of course you need one year savings, if you don't have it, don't bother coming. And use the prices above, not the guidelines from the ever dropping standards of immigration canada website (2000 rent for one person, plus 1500 living expenses, 3500 ~ 42,000 cash you will lose and it will not come back).

This city will reward you with a minimum wage, while extracting the prices above for bare survival. See those condo towers in the sky? Many of them are going belly up leaving the gullible buyers on the lurch. The wealth extraction of this city is becoming well known.

https://torontolife.com/city/life/anatomy-real-estate-disaster/

Developers are cancelling projects left right an center:

https://www.blogto.com/real-estate-toronto/2019/03/developers-cancel-another-sold-out-condo-project-toronto/

Now, the problem with being economically abused in Toronto, is that it takes years to speak out. You are trying to keep above water paying bills, and liars like those claiming greatness without providing any evidence will push you down every chance they can, because there is a line up behind you waiting to take your place. If you are in the line waiting to come here, get out for your own sake. More stories will come about this chaotic experiment called a city. They will say that you are poor because you are lazy, but at the same time, they are incompetent and had no other qualification that buying property when the prices reflected the nothingness that this city entails.

If you are surviving this city, speak up, don't let uninformed, ignorant people silence what is really going on.

For anyone coming to Toronto, do not move a finger unless you have a job, found a place to live, and come with at least 100k to spend on rent, or 1 million to buy a crappy fix-it-over. If you do not listen to good advice, you will end up living in an awful place, with landlords who have no respect or humanity, and bosses who will treat you like cattle.

Toronto is expensive because speculation and money laundering has made it so. The city is not worth a quarter of what it is currently selling for. Awful weather, crumbling infrastructure, poor education, and now, even health care is suffering with patients waiting for months or years for procedures, and the high-school educated premier of the province cutting hospital's budgets, instead of taxing absent landhoarders.

Juwai, a chinese website selling property, explains the "benefits" of buying million dollar properties, while declaring 0 world income. How can this be allowed to happen?

https://list.juwai.com/

Canada needs unexplained wealth law, such as the one in the UK. But the government is slooooow to act, because they are up to their necks on the dirt and corruption:

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2017/22/part/1/chapter/1/crossheading/unexplained-wealth-orders-england-and-wales-and-northern-ireland/enacted

If you're arriving to Canada fresh off the plane, rent is $2,000-$3,000 for a one bedroom in Leslieville, after the Landlord kicks out the current tenants who paid cheaper rent years ago:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/renoviction-leslieville-logan-ave-1.5151943

I have multiple friends making over 100k/year and they're in their mid-30s still debating if they can afford to have children. What the **** is everyone else with an average income supposed to do?

They are lucky to even have jobs that pay this much. The average salary job in Toronto is $30k yearly and requires a four year Canadian degree.

The Toronto bureaucrats and the 1% are angry that there are watchdogs who reveal that employers here would rather contact Seneca, Centennial George Brown and Humber for free labour using sophisticated "internship" schemes.

How could any college student or graduate work for free when the rents keep climbing higher and higher in Toronto?

And to those bureaucrats and greedy employers and 1%ers who hate me for speaking the truth, one of these days a website will be created to document the appalling censorship that happens when one complains of Canada.

The greedy and wealthy bureaucrats are shutting down archives of this website on the Wayback machine. Why do they fear the truth?

People with no real ambition, dream or passion for life will do well in these Anglo countries. Come to Canada if survival is your main criteria. You should become a mindless zombie and a 24/7 work drone if you want to live in these hypocritical Anglo Saxon countries. The whole economy is a pyramid scheme that benefits the rich and corrupt. Next time you hear a Cunuck sing praises of Canada remind him of the plight of natives and genocide of their ancestors. Anglos are decedents of lying, land grabbing, money grubbing immoral thieves and criminals. And make no mistake the French thieves in Quebec are no better.

I would reflect upon my six or seven years living in Toronto, and would subconsciously regret migrating here though I used to live in a “third world” Caribbean country.

What I would have changed was that I would have started to work in a factory or other low wage job from day one, save up as much as I can, and get the hell out of Toronto and Canada once I reach a certain level of income.

But no.

I thought that adapting and assimilating to this suburban middle class culture of Canada would have brightened my job prospects, income, stability and social standing. It was a waste of time!

I spent several years studying at what I later realized, was one of the most feminist campuses in Toronto. I worked hard to find my first job working in the university as a work study student, working for only a dollar higher than minimum wage (2014).

Could you believe the passive-aggressiveness that I experienced working as a non-white immigrant with a visibly Jamaican-ish sounding accent, and looking like a “Muslim” to boot (because Canadians think Muslim is a race).

These cakers were damn angry and envious that I got a work study job for a dollar higher than minimum wage, but if I was a tool and relied on welfare, they would still hate me.

A feminist complained that I made her feel uncomfortable & she did this anonymously that I did not know who complained, and what was exactly the issue. I was only warned that I should be careful of how I speak to women, as not all women are like certain co-workers who are okay with me.

This feminist worker spread a nasty rumour, and co-workers were avoiding me and I was being made to feel unwelcome. My mental state deteriorated, and this was because I was being mocked, criticized, and one time yelled at because of an anonymous complaint from a Canadian-born feminist co-worker.

I stayed until the contract ended, and I sent an email ranting at the due process of the university. I also complained that Afro-Caribbean female employees complained of racist aggression by certain Canadian female staff.

I was called into a meeting and the staff “feared” that I would “lash out” on campus [which implied that I was some sort of future school shooter, but I wasn’t in tune with the emotional outrage that Canada suffered a mass shooting back in 1989 at Polytechno in Montreal]. A senior male staff, a Jamaican, told me that (false allegations) happen, and that one time, he had to inform security on campus of a hysterical woman, a Canadian, threatening to create a scene, by yelling that he allegedly “raped her”. However, he was a senior staff. Security would respect him, despite the racist women in Toronto.

I was forced to consult mental health treatment, unaware that they were only interested in gathering evidence against me and using my mental state as a justification to imprison me or jail me or what not. I dropped out of that feminist hell hole, and wasted OSAP loans of tens of thousands of dollars.

A few years later, I am also penniless, one month away from homelessness, can only find a temporary job which forced me to sign as an “independent contractor” working for a corporation at the measly wage of $14 an hour, though I studied a few extra years to earn a degree.

My health—It’s that of a man in his 60s or 70s. I was healthy as an ox when I arrived to Canada at age 21, aside from nutritional deficiencies which were later improved upon.

This country is also going and copycatting the racism and xenophobia of the extreme Far Right movement of fascist Europe. Cakers used to be racist, but they wouldn’t act upon their violent fantasies, aside from the Neo-Nazi parties which were established in the 90s.

These days, a non-white has to fear harassment, violence and racist attacks by these cakers who have swallowed the Far Right propaganda hook, line and sinker. Even those considered liberal, such as gays, lesbians, tree huggers and animal rights activists are starting to become subtly racist against certain non-white groups.

Why the hell would you want to come here and suffer?

Cost of Living in Toronto as of May 25, 2019:

Rent for a one-bedroom apartment in downtown Toronto: $3,000/per month + utilities ($~3,500 in total)
Rent for a one-bedroom apartment in suburban borough: $1,700/per month +utilities (~$2,000 in total)

Food: $300 a month, way more if you depend on take out food.
Internet+ Cable: $50-100
Phone: $50-100
Car Insurance: $500+ per month for newcomer with no driving record in Canada.

This is for ONE PERSON. Multiply this by 1.5 for a family of 3, and 2 for a family of four.

Cleaning Canadian poop from toilets will pay at most $14 hour, which is poverty level wages, so you'd have to work almost 160 hours per month just to earn after tax, just to pay the rent and utilities, and employers will prevent you from working overtime even if you are forced to like cleaning poop and feces to survive in this city.

Leave your comfy office job in Asia, Latin America, Europe where ever, but please don't get angry at any of us who are warning you that you will be serving coffee or cleaning toilets here.

Thanks for sharing your opinion Howard, I know 0 billions would fall for this scam if they had known what they were coming to. I wish they had honest people like you, who finally admit that this country has nothing to offer but financial ruin. Can you tell those people you are trying to con, how much you pay a year for taxes, and how much did your "home" cost you? How much does it cost now, and for how much are you planning to sell it to an unexpecting newcomer?

Cleaning toilets is nothing anyone should be ashamed of, as long as it provided a salary to sustain a decent life. But in Toronto, it does not. You will clean toilets for 14 dollars an hour, while you pay 13 dollars an hour just for rent. Then you add food, clothes, transportation... etc... you will be forever in debt. Torontonians are famous across Canada for being the rudest people in this country. They know how to bring people to this swamp, but once you are here, you are on your own. On top of that people like Howard will look down at you because you clean toilets. Hypocrites. If you go for a date, they will ask you where you live. If you say the wrong intersection, you are done. If you say the wrong profession, you are done.

I say this because I am a Torontonian myself, who has conned others into coming. Everything was well, until I got sick, and my boss harassed me out of my job. I used to run the show for him, and did killer presentations. But once you are down, Torontonians will kick you until you are out. I lost my house and everything, because here, there are no friends. Here, there is nothing but interest for money. If you don't make enough, you are doom. If you make enough, you are doom, because you will never be able to keep up with the Joneses.

The only freedom, is freedom to get more debt!

2019/05/24
"Four-person family monthly costs: 4,835.15C$ without rent (using our estimator).
A single person monthly costs: 1,321.81C$ without rent."
Single person monthly costs 1330+1700 rent for an apartment in Jane and Finch= 3030 dollars. That means a 60K salary at a job place that takes away pension, just to be at 0 every month, or slightly under. But 60k jobs are not for newcomers. "You have to eat your bitter herbs", told me an incompetent manager with poor hygiene. So you are looking at minimum wage, or 2100 a month, which means each month, you'll be falling short 700 dollars. Don't overwork, because you might get deported for working more than what is allowed.
If you have a four person family and you work, you are looking at being under by over 4000 dollars per month. Prepare to do community service for mean spirited people who will hate you, and take your money away. By the way, community service is what criminals do, and your crime was not being born here.
This is a great city for speculators, or tax evaders, who hide away their fortunes in empty condos while declaring 0 world income. Or for money launderers who dump millions of Fentanyl money into real estate.
Even for Canadian born and grown, this city sucks. There are more horror stories coming. Here is an example from Vancouver, and I personally know people that went through this, but have not had the courage to speak yet, because they are under the landlords paws:
https://www.straight.com/life/905756/renters-vancouver-first-i-just-assumed-he-was-being-really-friendly

Toronto a world class city? Pffftttt! It cannot even balance its books.

Thank you Carol and Hubert for clarifying the expectation of "Proud Canadians" like you, that newcomers will bring their engineering, law, medicine, masters degrees, to clean toilets, serve coffee for minimum wage, all while they pay for million dollar dumps that you purchased for less than 100k 30 years ago. Can you provide real and reputable evidence, other than self-serving, utterly deceitful mantras, and baseless self-compliments?
People come here to work full time, and to pay creditors while being on the red. For each dollar a newcomer earns, he/she owes 1.76, so you are basically in the minus. Earning enough to stay behind, but never to make it. It doesn't matter if you leave, you'll be replaced by a new fool.
Here is a beautiful article from none other than Stats Can. Enjoy!

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/n1/pub/11f0019m/11f0019m2017397-eng.htm

So basically Canada lies to immigrants living abroad, lying about the country and job prospects, ensures that the cream of the crop leave their home countries...now hear this...

The best, highly educated and brightest immigrants leave their comfortable lifestyles to move to Canada...and come here to CLEAN TOILETS!

And the bigoted Canadian has the audacity to gaslight them by suggesting that it's "Canadian" to wipe bodily waste from toilets, ignoring the fact that these immigrants were lied to.

Who the hell wants to leave their affluent middle class lifestyle to clean toilets in Canada, and by Canada, it is actually Toronto, Calgary and Vancouver.

Toronto "best city in the world"? Read the comments under this article.
https://landlopers.com/2013/07/22/visit-toronto

But, let me guess, more Russian agents, right?

Excuse me!

What is it with all of the negative comments here?

Cleaning toilets and sidewalks is a job, is a job, is a job.

Work ennobles the human spirit, and working as a janitor in Canada is desirable than working in a poorer country.

Toronto is a growing, world-class city and the rents are competitive. Get over this!

What if some newcomers prefer to clean toilets for living in the best city in the world?

Gosh, I shut inform my department to shut down this website for Russian propaganda.

I'm signing my name to this comment, unlike many of you who use pseudonyms and anonymity to spread false news. Spreading false news is also a crime in Canada, just so you know...

"It is accurate, but nasty comments are spoiling your reputation."

too funny. This landlord is offended because you spoke the truth, and this landlord wants this blog owner to censor you. Just so they can exploit you for profit unimpeded.

Truth is folks, manufacturing jobs have gone to technology a long time ago. Now the service industry, AND the white collar industry are beginning to see their livelihoods gone to technology as well. Wont be long, in your kids lifetime likely, that most of us will no longer need to work.

Problem is, the politician pretend this paradigm is a success, that we can have a society based on work to live, while there is no longer the work to live on.

When the bought and paid for politicians promise you jobs? He is a liar. Jobs are going to tech, and there is no stopping it. What we need to stop is the idea that it is OK for a few to feed on the rest, in the interest of self interest.

We can live without debt and without servitude, by allowing technology to free us, rather than be used to enslave us further than the debt already does.

Toronto made it to the documentary, The Push, which you should check out if you want to move here. This city should get a warning, you might lose all that you have, sign. When a 55 year old man, Toronto born and grown, loses his job because they want to pay someone fresh off school half, that is a very sad day. The worse part is when landlords claim they are moving in, and now that man is stuck in this city, held hostage by credit. Cannot even get an LCBO job, because the only positions available pay 16 bucks. What can you afford with that? No humanity, only number, really high numbers. Tell everyone that you see and know the truth. Stop conning innocent workers into RE debt.

Toronto has become a mafia state, where debtors are threatened by TPS cops in what should be a civil matter (small claims courts)

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/police-charged-extortion-threats-1.5132233

The rich landowners and bourgeois elite live in luxury in Toronto, while the debtors and serfs live in an open-air prison of political correctness and police force on individual rights.

Toronto is descending down into a spiral of feudalism. Landlords treating female bodies as chattel, debtors being threatened by armed thugs wearing a badge (police), and wages stagnating and jobs very hard to find.

Tell everyone that asks about Toronto the truth. Let this city become a total empty Airbnb ghost hotel, filled with Landlords competing against each other. It is not worth your time, talent, and life. Toronto has no identity? It does, and it is the face of greedy landlords and heavy handed police. But they hide it behind anything else. Ikea Monkey, chair girl, any distraction will work from the housing catastrophe. This is a city where more than 100 people literally freeze in the streets. Stop calling yourselves world class city, Toronto is world class pity.

There are more and more articles showing the true nature of landlords. Here below, a landlord asking for disgusting requisites: "He and his roommate, Brianna Love, also an actor and writer, have applied for dozens of apartments and gone to showings with more than a hundred people present. Ms. Love had one particularly unsettling experience. “I saw a place, the smallest two-bedroom you could ever see, and the man showing the apartment said: ‘If you’re interested, there are a lot of applications in front of you. You’d have to do something pretty special to move up the list,’“ Ms. Love said. Non-plussed, she demanded to know what he meant by the remark. “I still don’t know if he was asking for money or sex. … He put up his hands and said, ‘I don’t know, I don’t know. Just saying if you want the place.’“
https://www.theglobeandmail.com/real-estate/article-whens-the-worst-time-to-find-a-rental-in-toronto-right-now/

I have friends who have gone through that, but unless you can hire an overpriced lawyer, you don't have rights. Newcomers have no rights, if they work at Tim Horton's, have a subsistence living, and cannot take time off to fight landlords or awful bosses and pay for expensive lawyers. I had a friend who had to rent an awful place for 1500, and she had to undress in a room that had weird holes in the wall. She did it in the dark, but does it matter? There's something called night vision.

I lived in a basement, that was damp, moldy, and plain awful, to save some money. The landlord used to open the door on me accidentally, and curiously after having shower noises. They don't care about people, only numbers, only money, only about socialism for the ultra-rich, and bone hard capitalism for the middle. Some very poor win the affordable housing lottery and live off welfare for the rest of their lives, but that is a very small number. Usually the only happy people that will vote liberal or conservative for the rest of their lives, and their 4-8 children will follow.

#Torontoisfailingus, #Torontoisafailedcity, spread the truth!

70% is the passing mark for some prestigious universities. 50% is the passing mark for mediocre. At 1% (or 33% if you count the paper house rich, cash poor), Toronto is a failed city. I have started letting everyone that asks me about it the truth. When the median income cannot afford rent, and the only way to get a house is a lottery, the city has failed. There is no diversity for governance or power in Toronto. Look at the pictures of the mayors that greet you at the airport. The only diversity they like, is of money; legal, illegal, it does not matter. If it can buy an overprice, overcrappy house, it's all good! but once you buy it, get out. You can airbnb families out of this failed city, that is acceptable.

49% people in Toronto have mental issues. They make the others believe, that paying a million dollars, or getting in debt for life for a dumpy house that spends 8 months surround by ice, is normal. They make the people who come here believe, that working for free to gain canadian experience, is normal. Usually, there is one guy doing all the real work, while the homeowners relax having coffee and complain that the person working is not a team player. I have wasted 15 years of my life that I am not getting back. It is good to read real reviews about this world crap city.

Let us look at reality, and imagine a perfect ideal situation for coming to Toronto, based on my story and the ones of people around me. Person X from Y country applies to a job which offers 80K, recognizes his/her credentials (1 out of 10 chances), pays the Canadian average, and gets the offer. Comes, and starts renting a 1 bedroom for 2,600 a month which for downtown, is a really good price. After taxes, TTC, food, insurance, that lives him/her with 0 dollars a month for saving out of the 4000 paycheck after contributions to his/her pension and benefits plan. Not bad, he/she is not going into debt at least. The place is in Fort York, which has become a ghost airbnb hotel, so there are loud parties every weekend and sometimes weekdays, with the occasional shooting. Nothing to shabby, back "home" there were more shootings, although food was cheap and good, and he/she had lots of friends for emotional support, as well as family. He/she lives alone, and makes no connection, as 1/2 of this city can attest.
All of a sudden, the landlord, a medieval powerful entity who truly enjoys life in this wonderful city, comes back and takes the place back. He/she has two months during which he/she does not find anything, is forced to a hotel, racking up debt at 5000 dollars a month, while fighting desperately to find a new place. No one wants to take him or her for less than 3000, unless he/she is willing to move to the suburbs, which he does. Then he is late for work, because there are always accidents and other issues with GTA failing infrastructure. He/she gets fired, even though he/she was the hardest working person in the team doing the work for all the baby boomers who retired, then came back to suck more out of the system. Those boomers look at him/her down, and think he/she does not have a home because of their inferior (add descriptor here) When they find out he/she is out of work, they offer a house for rent, for only 4000 a month. They hired someone off the street who knows nothing of his/her job, and screws up big time. They blame it on him/her.
Now he/she has to work at timmy's coffee shop for minimum wage, and live in a crummy apartment in Dufferin and king, surrounded by cockroaches and bedbugs that bite him/her at night. That is, until he/she gets evicted again, because the area has become hip (gentrification!) and they will be renovating the whole building. The new price tag will be 3000 a month. Debt keeps piling up, he/she cannot pay it back, and it is all to much until one day....

Toronto is a wonderful city!
(come at your own risk)

Anonymous on May 04, only a certain group of people are being employed in the Bay St. finance sector.

An immigrant with local or European ACCA qualifications will be shut out from this career field. I've heard of immigrants who were ACCA Members, cleaning toilets for years because their ACCA credentials were not recognized by employers or CPA Canada.

The poor have to risk their lives traveling in a subway system which doesn't have extra capacity in the case of an emergency:
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/05/04/scarborough-rt-fleet-reached-critical-vehicle-shortage-last-month.html