Cost of Living in Toronto

This is what $1,700 monthly rent gets you in Toronto: https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/acorn-protest-weston-1.5319559

Why car insurance is so expensive in Canada? I use to pay $60 in Massachussets and I’m Toronto I am paying $270 per month. :/

Dear Administrator, using the reference websites for autos I calculated prices for a VW Golf and Toyota Corolla to be approx $33300 and $33100 respectively. I assumed $600 for licensing, 13% is our HST.

Come to Canada, and DIE in the most inhumane way. He died at the workplace, yet the staff had to continue working as if nothing happened. Right here in Toronto! A worker died and staff had to continue working and the factory was still operating. Life has no meaning if you are poor in Canada, but the Bridle Path millionaires are living the good life.

Do you want to migrate to Canada and die in Toronto as a serf? The Filipino man was a civil engineer in his home country and in UAE, but in Toronto, he DIED a factor worker, and even when he died, the Bridle Path owners forced the workers to keep on working, even after seeing a worker die in the most horrible way; crushed by a faulty machine. Come to Toronto and SUFFER!

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/10/04/the-life-and-death-of-fiera-foods-temp-worker-enrico-miranda.html

Please enter and reflect real income. 2400. If you care about this, please speak up at twitter #housingcrisis

better link to article

https://www.blogto.com/real-estate-toronto/2019/09/toronto-biggest-housing-bubble-world/?fbclid=IwAR1IeX8-R6wk_VI9vpNgSb7ERBCzGOVFZV3neRPxL0FGiV3axd5ZhSn544k

We had to censor some comments due to offensive language. Please use a language which is not offensive to any gender, race, group of people, etc.

The amount of thought policing and censorship in this politically correct city alone makes me paranoid of what I type.

Do you know what makes it even more scary?

Numbeo has been blacklisting IP addresses and even web browsers from Toronto to censor Torontonians from commenting here.

Toronto is a scam which requires the influx of monies from Alberta, Ottawa and immigrants to keep the facade going.

College students at Seneca, Centennial, Humber and George Brown are being told that they have to PAY thousands of dollars for a credit course to WORK for FREE and get 'Canadian job experience'.

Toronto is a scam!

Canadian economy is poor and there is a lot of growing insolvency. Hard for young people to get ahead and live a decent life.

Toronto is deteriorating if you're a minimum wage worker or a student who will, in the future, have to work for free or even pay employers to hire you.

Toronto is however, a heaven for the top 1%, and also the Grade 8 educated Boomers who are now millionaires and using HELOCs and reverse mortgages to fund their vacations and becoming richer.

Toronto Boomers will harass you and attack you with racist slurs on the street, if you are a minority of student age, but as soon as a money launderer with suitcases of illegal money offers to buy homes for money laundering, the same Boomers will welcome them with open arms.

Toronto is also socially fragmented that if you're a single male, you will end up spending lots of money for companionship, as the almighty dollar is valued rather than mutual friendships. Everything is terms of time as money in Toronto.

If you're over 18, say goodbye to your future if you plan to move here!

I migrated here when I was 18, and today, at age 25, I am worse off than my peers in a 3rd world country!

https://www.narcity.com/real-estate/ca/on/toronto/torontos-cheapest-house-for-sale-right-now-is-so-small-and-so-cute-photos

I was in Italy not too long ago, and the rents were low (400 euro), the wine was great and cheap, and the food was amazing. There was a time when a tulip costed ten times the annual salary of a skilled worker. In Toronto, houses cost 10 times or more the annual salary of a skilled worker. For such a toxic city with failing infrastructure, lame entertainment and overpriced services, it reminds me of Tulipmania.

Again, the Real estate or politicians are pumping up the salary... It's 2300.

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i'll probably have to leave canada to retire as well.. but for me that's not for a little while
not everyone has the guts to take the leap so good on you

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Indian citizens and Chinese are driving up house prices and causing homeless for everyone! And by Indian citizens, I refer to them Pageet from India who are flooding the gates of Canada to drive up house prices, drive down wages by work for free scams, and also other forms of hardship for Canadians.

To put that in context, there is now a single-car garage for sale in mid-town Toronto for $599,000. Meanwhile Pageet tries to impress his HR Manager by offering to work for free, not knowing that the HR Manager is not dressing that way to ask her for a date!

Pageets have been flooding Canada by the millions every year. They would scam a poor Indian in their home country, but they will beg to work for free in Canada. This is why I don't like Pageets.

I have respect for those turban wearers as they are the real immigrants who help make Canada a better place. Pageets, on the other hand, are scam artists, lowballers and brown nosers for the whites.

And before you yell "racist", I am an Afro-Caribbean male whose relatives had to live with descendants of Indians for hundreds of years.

Indians are truly a scourge if they act like a Pageet. Luckily, most Indo-Caribbean peoples have assimilated and are not Pageets, but what the hell is wrong with Indians to ruin it for the rest of us?

If Sharmini fled in the remote areas of Sri Lanka, rather than migrate to Canada, and brown nose for a local who murdered her, she would still be here living.

A local Canadian walks free, while Sharmini's family grieves because the police have not charged anyone for the murder, though a police sergeant believes there is a suspect, but the suspect has more rights even if he went on raping and assaulting more women. This is Canada!

https://newsinteractives.cbc.ca/longform/sharmini

It just shows that these Pajeets will even worship a white man if he rapes and murders them for a job. This isn't name-calling; this is facts!

These Pajeets also pay International fees for tuition, and after they graduate, they beg employers to work for free, lowering wages and increasing unemployment for those who aren't boot lickers and brown nosers for the whites.

What did Britain do to India that Pajeets would risk everything to work for free? Honestly, this is unlike migrants who migrate for a higher salary or to make it big to retire in their home countries.

Pajeet wants to sell his mansion in India, use that money to study in these anti-male schools, and then beg to work for free...Tsk tsk!

8 months of winter and not enough money to make it worthwhile.. even if you work..

most successful guy i know making 6 figures bought some stupid 1 million dollar townhouse downtown on like a 30 year mortgage.. high ceilings sure, but still a narrow townhouse and no garage, and you have to be quiet at night..

if that's the new pinnacle of success then the rest of us are basically fucked..

Toronto is 15.73% lower than New York.

But in Toronto, it would be very rare to start with a US$65,000 a year job after graduating with an MBA or Master's Degree. As a matter of truthfulness, jobs in finance, business, management and accounting are only reserved for those in certain social classes.

Ever read the story of the Guyanese lady who was unemployed for several years despite her MBA and work experience in Toronto? And then after becoming mentally unstable, she started stabbing up women in the underground downtown district?

Lots of immigrants, especially men, end up jumping the subway tracks and committing suicide because they were told a lie by the immigration consultants.

Educated migrants are also harassed on the streets of Toronto and accused of being illegal refugees. Trump's racist ideas have infested Toronto.

You wanna come live in Toronto like a second class citizen, and spend everything that you have while chasing a false dream, and then have NOTHING if you want to leave this toxic city?

Look here, I'm from one of the poorest countries in the Caribbean islands (Haiti), and I want to return there because I hate this city. I don't even have enough money to move to Montreal, and I doubt that there will be jobs for me because of the racism.

Toronto is like the city equivalent of Harvy Winestein. Over-rated, over-priced, famous, tolerated, people think it is a big deal until people start coming forward with their real stories, trials, and plain awfulness. Then all the people who made money out of it start defending him by calling others nut-jobs. Before you arrive you get all this misinformation telling you everything is going to be better than where you are. Once you are here, you are thrown into a toxic work and society where you are expected to fill in for those lazy people who just drink coffee and enjoy themselves watching movies, because they were here before. On top of that, they insult you or back stab you from all possible angles. You realize that to have rights to have to have lawyers, which means a lot of money that you do not earn. Newcomers to Canada who are not millionaires or money launderers have to survive with underemployment and wages that do not meet the cost of living. More than a third live in poverty, and have to go deep into debt just to survive. This can lead into depression, substance abuse, and quite dire ends. Their solution is to bring more people, to replace the ones who burned out. Where are the refugees from the photo-ops now? Some estimates say that 1 out of 10 of the non-family or association sponsored ones managed to get a job, the others are barely scraping by on social assistance. Of the family or association sponsored ones, 1 out of 2 is jobless. Google month 13 refugees.
Go check the calculator here in Numbeo. The numbers do not add a car, and other things that some people expect to have once they come to Canada. You work hard for others’ wealth building, not for you. You need 4800 for a family of four a month. Plus 3000 for a crappy rental. That is 7800 a month. They pay 2400 a month for a full time 40 hours a week job. If you manage to get a job for your wife, that is 2400 a month. 4800. You have not covered rent yet.

And don't make eye contact with someone who was not introduced to you, they are overly-sensitive about being approached without a signed consent.

The average nice house in a nice neighbourhood is anout $2.4 million. This would be a dream for many Canadians, but how many do you think can afford it on a $55,000 salary ? One bedroom Condos are about $600,000 if you prefer not to live in gang infested areas. Grab the calculator which comes free of charge with your phone, and start punching in the numbers.

https://www.cp24.com/news/ttc-pleads-guilty-to-1-of-3-charges-laid-in-connection-with-death-of-employee-in-2017-1.4576199
@ Justin, US has capitalism, but you can die of pneumonia (Jim Henson did, even though he was rich). Hollywood never talks about the sad stories of 1/3 of bankruptcies being caused by medical bills. You are one disease away from having your american dream finished. So that is one good thing of Canada, but they want to take that away as well. Yes, there is enough money to provide social housing, but the people who vote for trudeau want to see double digit increases in their properties year after year. They don't need it, many of them I've met, and they don't know what to do with money. How many McDonalds hamburgers can they buy? How many unlimited netflix can they watch? They do not know what to do with their money but watch it grown and make sure they fight taxes. It is almost like a compulsive disorder.
To those who doubted the man on this thread who spoke about someone losing their life in the workplace, here is the source. His family will get compensation after too long. If he had no family, there would be no compensation. If you come here after reading all this, make sure you bring someone, just in case.

Toronto is the city where newcomer workers have nowhere to live, and they have to spend half their lives at work, and the other half commuting. Sometimes, no time to even sleep, only in the go-trains, which cost 4000 or more a year (cost not included in Numbeo). If employers misbehave, you have to suffer through it, because if you don't have a job you don't have friends nor shelter no food. If you are on a work permit you are out of the country, if you are a permanent resident, get kicked out, and a citizen, you are looking at the cold hard pavement, where homeless people get attacked. Just saw ten people doing drugs (queen station, eaton center exit) during daylight, and two getting glassed. Economic pressure is too high, and this is a failed city.
https://www.toronto.ca/community-people/health-wellness-care/health-inspections-monitoring/monitoring-deaths-of-homeless-people/

Toronto housing a rip-off!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=usK41_QX0t0

Real estate in Toronto is a scam!

There are no good paying jobs, but Landlords and home owners expect you to pay Manhattan prices for their overpriced particle board homes.

Jp says sth and 99 others say sth else, from my calculations I can guess now 1/(1+99) ?

Good luck and enjoy potential membership.

And look at this ivory tower liberal condemning posts which lament the jobless situation, housing and poverty in Toronto, while JP herself boasts of living in US$2,000 or C$3,000 a month upscale condos.

Doesn't that sound very illogical?

Condemn the poor in Toronto for complaining, while bragging of "saving US$1,000 on car insurance" when over half of low-income Torontonians can't even afford to pay gas or even a bus fare for work.

What agenda does JP have to scoff at the poor complaining, while promoting a false image of Toronto.

Newcomers aren't gonna afford those upscale condos, and there are stories that money laundering is a factor in the so-called "condo boom" of Toronto. Over 65% of those condo units are owned by anonymous numbered corporations which are tied to shady individuals who are accused of horrific acts waging from financial impropriety to war crimes in third world countries.

Toronto has a growing divide between social and economic classes, and I support anyone where who explains their plight as the lower income groups of Toronto.

Well to do and upper middle class posters like JP are very anti-poor and they scoff at the poor complaining.

Keep on posting JP, because when the economic recession comes at the door, the posters who are living in poverty in Canada would need to grab some popcorn and mock your propaganda piece and laugh at the lies and realtor shilling.

Wow, you can go ahead and ignore the crazy rants in these comments! Numbeo’s data are pretty accurate for Toronto and no, obviously it’s not the hell scape these nut jobs make it out to be. Rent is perfectly normal for a medium-sized word class city. Crime is very low, especially violent crime, by international standards. One guy in the comments says he was bullied for his LA accent - that is delusional. I moved here four years ago from the US and no one has ever mentioned my American accent even once. Other people whine about the taxes; that’s the true Canadian pastime, not hockey. In reality, business taxes are actually extremely low. My total income tax after moving to Canada precisely matched my rate in the upper Midwest of the US - down to the tenth of a percent. The property taxes in Toronto are extraordinarily low, while the sales tax is high by American standards. The overall tax rate that median households pay is slightly higher than the average in the nicer parts of the US (but remember we get health care free) and lower than in most of Europe. I rent what I consider to be a very nice 2BR condo in a lovely neighborhood (not downtown, not suburban) and the rent is US$2000 as of September 2019, including a locker and big rooftop terrace and easy walking access to every necessity. While that’s a bit high, my partner and I both sold our cars because we don’t need them - we walk or take transit everywhere. That literally saves us over US$1000/month. Toronto is far from perfect, obviously, and as the fastest growing city in North America, there is a lot of construction and housing prices are high because they can’t build enough of them fast enough, but overall, trust the actual data, not the kooks.

There is a real risk to ending up stuck in Toronto due to the insane prices of rent. Doing multiple jobs is not enough, and once you burn out, you will be fired. I knew a CEO who said, as soon as you smell the first hint of smoke, can them. There’s no social safety net in this city, as the wait time is 10 years for social housing, and there is a risk that on top of paying top dollar for rent, the roof will collapse and you will end up in the streets despite having a full time job. There’s a new poster in the TTC that says, poverty has no race. It’s true, we all are one mistake away from absolute poverty, despair, and indignity-filled indifference from the other inhabitants of this place.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/people-are-stuck-report-highlights-toronto-s-housing-crunch-as-city-prepares-10-year-plan-1.5008727
Its absolute misery out here.

Imagine immigrating here as a teenager, doing very well in High school, and suddenly once going to university that means squat because of identity politics. One mistake and everything is destroyed. Toronto is a cold-hearted, merciless and ruthless city, as the days of the European settlers who murdered the Native Indians in cold blood back in the 1800s to sell bungalows for millions of dollars today.

I was harassed, slandered and bullied as a student of a university in downtown Toronto because I spoke to a Canadian female using a Yankee accent. What made matters worse was that I, a non-white, was treated just like a pariah for complaining and they forced me to take psychiatric drugs and counselling because they didn't like my complaints.

One mistake in Toronto, and everything you have is GONE! Why come to Toronto as a millionaire and leave homeless or in a casket?

Toronto is a corporate bureaucracy which profits from identity politics, but they view us, the non-whites with accents as outsiders. I honestly can't change my accent to "Toronto" as I'll sound like a retarded Los Angeles prick.

Why is there a government agent or realtor artificially increasing the average salary of Toronto, while artificially reducing the rent prices?

$1,300 is not the minimum rent for a one-bedroom anywhere in Toronto, even in the suburban ghettos where many live in fear, except the slumlord living in his Bridle Path or Rosedale mansion with his family living like royalty.

Lots of immigrants came from countries where stuff like ghettoes, pimping, drug crises and other social ills are unheard of. Why put your family into such a terrible situation?

Why come to Toronto to rent a ROOM inside a basement for over $1,000 a month for, and have your family live in deplorable conditions while bad influences will destroy your family? If you send your son or daughter to the low-income schools, they will forever be discriminated in the job market. You have to afford living in a good area with good schools so the employers will not throw their resumes in the bin.

The social culture of Toronto is very toxic that the unemployed and underemployed are resorting to opiates like fentanyl and heroine to alleviate their suffering.

If you, a father or mother, really love your children, and care for their future, DO NOT come to Toronto living in a low-income ghetto with the stigma that being poor perpetuates. If you are living as a respected man or woman in your home country, you are way better off there than coming to Toronto and having to spend your life savings, and then your salaries on living in a slum area where crime is rampant.

If you love your son or daughter, ensure that they don't fall into the trap of the ghettoes of Toronto, as 99% of professional class immigrants usually end up into.

If you're a millionaire, the best solution, is to send them as international students to study, but then again, the toxic social culture might force them to jump the tracks in the TTC or consume fentanyl to escape the hell of this city.

I came from a third world country, and Toronto is declining WORSE than any third world country in the Western hemisphere, even HAITI. Do you think that even the starving and poor Haitians would settle to WORK FOR FREELY to some elitist company or for the European elite there? Hell forking NO!

Being poor here is being like a minority race in South Africa during apartheid. You will be discriminated punitively, and the locals will view you like a savage, and the white man's burden, EVEN IF YOU ARE MORE EDUCATED THAN THEM!

I wish I hadn't placed so much faith in Toronto, or even Canada as a whole, and instead saved up my cash until I had enough to live somewhere else, but then again, Toronto is a TRAP, and once you're in here, THERE IS NO ESCAPE!

This is a love speech: for the love of your life, of your dear ones, of your health, of anything you care about, do your research before coming to Toronto. The quality of life that they advertise is not for all. It is for those who can afford it. No money equals no happiness here.

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/vital-signs-report-2018-1.4554009
https://dailyhive.com/toronto/cost-of-living-toronto-early-30s

Those are two articles that tell you:
1- locals are lonely and sad
2- if you don't have that amount to survive, you will go into debt, which will sap away your health and energy.

If you manage to get an iron-clad contract (one that, in the event you lose your job, you will get enough severance to go back home safely), a good salary (upwards of 200k Canadian dollars), then you might be okay. All the prices here in Numbeo are mostly accurate, except for income. Some real estate con-artists keep pumping it up to make it look, like you can earn that. The main skill you need, is politics, to behave obsequiously with your superiors, for your own advantage, and the right look.

I am Canadian, I love immigrants, that is why I want to save them.

What scare are you talking about ? Toronto is a feminist hellhole , wasps mostly stick to wasps. Very hard to make friends. Theres social alienation to an extreme. Flaky people. The reputation is well deserved, tell people in Ottawa what they think about Toronto people or to Montreal people.

To the prospective migrant to Toronto.

If you're:

1. A professional such as lawyers, doctors, accountants, scientists
2. A married or single male from age 18 to 59.
3. Someone who is viewed as a self-sufficient, upper, "high caste" class in your home country

AND

1. You do not have a job offer to work in Toronto.

DON'T

I repeat...DON'T come here because you will HAVE A HARD TIME even finding a low wage job in Toronto.

Toronto is for those of identity politics, the elites, Caucasian females and those who are fleeing war-torn countries. Don't come here to clean public toilets in Toronto when you are a respected man in your home country. Are you that gullible of the lies that the Canadian government tells you?

Read how many threats have been made against us posting here by the City of Toronto autocrats for free speech to complain of this city! That alone should tell you how Toronto is a bad place.

Not only has the cost of renting a home been getting higher and higher in Toronto, but the quality of private rental properties has been getting worse and worse. People are expected to live in cramped, inadequate housing, often in unsafe conditions – often for extortionate prices, such as $1,500 a month to rent a room inside a moldy basement of the Dufferin-Little Portugal area of Toronto.

Statistics released in 2019 showed that the number of people aged between 25 and 45 living in flat or house shares due to unaffordable homes had risen by 500% since 2007. There are so few affordable properties that people are increasingly living in overcrowded house shares, well beyond their student years.

To make matters worse, commentators from statistical website Numbeo have complained that the way to get their foot in the door of the Toronto job market is to work for free for a few years.

Revolutionary socialism is the only genuine opposition to the landlord class. No one is building low-cost homes in Toronto. Instead we have seen suburbs of North York, Scarborough, Etobicoke, Peel, York and Durham regions burgeon with expensive houses for the upper-middle class.

And then the conservatives, from Doug Ford, to Andrew Scheer, to Maxime Bernier, tell us that the country is full. Too many immigrants, not enough space. This deceit aims to divide the workforce along national and racial lines. Immigrants are not the source of the housing crisis. The ruling landlord class is, by defending their decaying capitalist system.

I don't think there's a need to insult other people in this forum and we need to focus on the economical costs of living in this city. Changing the tone to attacks can turn this into the wrong kind of forum and I understand the frustration with being told you were going to have a better life only to find out it was not the case and that can be told just like that. No need to target other populations, we are one humanity suffering the costs of bad government that caters entire systems for the rich.

Canada is escalating further and further down to the ground, life is not valued in Toronto. Lady was knocked down by truck, and driver sped off the scene & didn't report the collision.

Come to Canada and work for free and die like a dog like this lady:

https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2019/08/21/woman-dies-after-being-hit-by-driver-in-scarborough-paramedics-say.html

Hey Guys! I finally figured it out how to make it in Tranna (and Vancouva)!

You start private schools, charge big bucks, buy a mansion and four condos, air bnb the condos to extract every penny from naive newcomers, then don't pay wages. The efficient ministry of labour takes 3 years to get back the wages many broke students who just graduated, both canadian and newcomers do not have energy or resources to fight back thanks to the boomer-oriented economy, and if convicted of 1.6 million dollars, you only get to pay 50k! Or a year in the can, if you are that cheap. It's a really good deal. If you don't pay taxes for the condos and house, they cannot take them away, because CRA is soooo smart, that they will protect your property from greedy millenials. For more on this:

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/anchuan-jiang-companies-owe-money-1.4575201

Those schools continue to operate, by the way. That's how the maple syrup cookey crombles!

Hello everyone,

It is very true that you are no longer guaranteed a job, even a minimum wage job after earning your diploma and degree in Toronto.

As a recent graduate, I've known some friends from other colleges who have a very hard time finding jobs. Centennial College even has a working for experience program called Design Jam, where graduates work for no salary for 3 months, just to obtain "Canadian experience". Slavery is here in Toronto and it's in the form of internships. Lots of Toronto agencies are "looking for volunteers everyday", but they are not hiring.

Don't think for a second that us non-whites are safe in this country either. Police are biased, the legal system is biased, and racism is increasing as if Toronto has imported uneducated racists from the deep south. Toronto is not a world class city. It's a very capitalist, clannish and social strata messhole and it's only getting worse for the poor.

Toronto is an immigrant trap. You might get a job but be prepared to give back all your hard money in the form of rent while you live in a city that is frozen over half the year. It is not a world class city transit is terrible cost of living is high and the landscape is very boring. Try for the US or Australia if you have a choice.

Toronto was built by middle class, who used to pay well, because who wants to live in this horrible winter? But then came the hippies, the generation that loved themselves so much, many of them didn't even bother to have kids. So they brought outsiders, and realized that the sheet-rock dumps they bought for 40k, when their salaries were 40k, could be sold for more and more. Now, those dumps are selling for a million dollars, and there is people gullible enough to buy them. They come for the passport, and for a life quality that has been gone for over twenty years. The prices here are right, except for the income. You are looking at 2000 if you find a job, or nothing if you, like 90% of the newcomers, end up volunteering. I just saw a photographer post asking for 3 days of work to get some exposure. 3 days of work, and transportation to Brampton, for Canadian experience. On the other hand, if you think the Canadian passport does anything for you, think twice. I have one, and when I go to international conferences, they ask me, where are you from? Canada. No, really. My blonde colleagues don't get asked that. Being born and grown here does not really matter.
The classism (prejudice against or in favor of people belonging to a particular social class) in Toronto is evident on those delusional people saying this is a world class city. It is the best of times (for landlords), it is the worst of times (for tenants and newcomers who don't have 1M dollars).

Average price of a one bedroom is now $2300. Average salary is around $45K. We are screwed.

"Cost of living index in Toronto is 17.77% lower than in New York".

People, take note of this part at the top of the page in the Summery About Cost of Living in Toronto. Keep your eye on this. The cost of living percentage gap in Toronto compared to New York City has been decreasing. Not long ago Toronto was 30% less cost of living lower than in New York. Keep watching if this website will censor this factor at the top of the page. Toronto only costing 17.77% less than in New York is completely unjustified.

Toronto is nowhere near the level and category of the New York, London and Tokyos of the world. Toronto does not have high job creation, it does not possess great infrastructure and subway system, the police presence and kaw enforcement is very low - almost zero, Toronto has very weak innovation, it is a place that doesn't take risk, it suffers from politically correctness, and a big factor is that Toronto does not have its own industries or companies. Toronto does not even have its own culture, mode and identity. Toronto was made and designed to be a type of Cleveland or Buffalo city, and to be sensible. Today, after damage from the past two or three decades, it is a huge dysfunctional mess.

Check out how many indians are being brought to toronto living in horrible comditions.

Tessa what do you have to say to that?

https://m.timesofindia.com/articleshow_comments/64920227.cms

Dear Outsider, I can tell you there is a chance of getting a good job, if you are very skilled at something and get a contract before you come. I have known people from Europe, for whom this is the case, but if they lose the job, they lose everything.

A guy I knew who worked for Urbancorp, which went bankrupt, had to run back to his country for he could not find anything else, I have never met so many people despair in their lives as in Toronto. The other option is to marry someone, if you are very, very attractive, you might secure a living. But the same goes for marrying, you have to get into a serious relationship and ideally married before you come, ideally. For the LGBT community, there are more opportunities, so if you belong to that group, you might find a partner and, if you make sure they have a home and a good paying job, you might be okay.

The only jobs I see are for minimum salary, or hairstylists. The few good jobs I see, are for those with canadian experience.

The unemployment rate is around 5-6% in general.

https://www150.statcan.gc.ca/t1/tbl1/en/tv.action?pid=1410028703

But the problem is not unemployment, but underemployment. You might bring your credentials, skills, and experience, and they will put you down because they want to pay the minimum they can. There are people from Oxford who can't get good jobs. I have worked for two decades, and my salary has stagnated. I'm making 200 dollars more than 10 years ago, despite excellent reviews every year. They kept telling us to wait, and next thing you know, we have a premier who wants austerity. Get informed before you make any life changing decision.

https://business.financialpost.com/opinion/the-ugly-truth-hiding-behind-canadas-low-unemployment-rate-should-worry-us-all

People keep coming because if you manage to go through all the hurdles of applying for PR and to suffer for three years, you get a fancy passport and Canadian experience. A passport won't do much, specially if you don't have money to travel. If you do have money and get in trouble, then the goverment might help you, but it depends in the country.
https://globalnews.ca/news/4812963/13-canadians-detained-china-huawei/

That's basically it. There was an image created by hollywood about good life here. Don't believe it, apply for jobs, apply for dating, go on google view and check the intersections of queen and bathurst or jane and finch, whatever you see with you own eyes, that's reality.

Numbeo, you do realize that censoring legal comments criticizing Toronto defeats the purpose of your website as not being influenced by any government agency?

There is no crime being committed to take down posts which criticize the city, yet the bureaucrats at the Metro Hall of Toronto are sending legal notices to take down golden comments which expose the brutal reality of living in this hyper-capitalist yet socialist liberal dump.

Real Estate runs Ontario. There is no other way to put it. The politicians, such as Tim Hudak, ex leader of the con-servative party, are now up to their necks in RE. The liberals as well, and the NDP's only concern is the homeless, not the sandwich class who does not qualify to any subsidy. If you come wihtout a job, you might end up on a plane back, with no money in your pockets, or like the guy in this picture. You have been warned.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/homeless-newcomers-refugees-canada-studies-1.5242426

Clark Kent

the worst thing about the boomers is that they look at their struggling kids and mock them without acknowledging that they grew up in a completely different era with none of the same problems

possibly the most delusional and selfish generation in history

Reported today: Over 260 shootings so far this year. Stabbings exceed that. We now have a gun and gang war culture here that is out of control. Nothing will stop this due to relatively low property taxes and political correctness. If you are considering moving here you had better be starting at $85,000 today, family income about $170,000 NOT in a year or two. This is no longer Toronto the Good. The city has changed dramatically in the last 15 years. Sorry to tell you the truth.

Toronto is expensive beyond human capabilities of generating income. The only way to have some quality of life, is by getting into debt. This lead to frustration at the never ending payments of interest, and a lack of social safety net means you cannot declare bankruptcy without ending up in the streets, where you can be subjected to all kinds of violence. Get informed, before you are conned.

Charlie, that's the problem...Unlike the USA where there are hundreds of cities which are comparable to Toronto, there are NONE other than Toronto where there is an urban metropolis. Vancouver does not count as it's a money laundering hub for Chinese, Montreal doesn't count because it's a close-knit society of Quebecois aristocrats and you have to speak their version of French.

I've noticed that more and more people are snapping out on the streets of downtown Toronto. It isn't a CAMH or hospital problem as Doug Ford and his cronies haven't cut health care as yet.

Toronto is not a city of innovation, nor would Canada be a place to live the "American dream" unless you are coming here to retire with at least $1.5 million dollars, or are laundering money from Asia.

Point is, if you don't choose the right school, intersection and social groups, you will be discriminated. How is it that children who attend those expensive private schools RARELY end up unemployed or living in poverty, even if they are less qualified than someone who studied at a low-income school at Jane & Finch? It's aristocracy in action!

Toronto is priced beyond minimum salaries, and jobs other than those are hard to find. I have worked at the LCBO, making 16 an hour, regardless of university and canadian education I could not find anything else. The work was exhausting, I spoke french and that did not matter, and it was barely enough to rent a room in a dark building downtown (having a car would have added 1000 a month to the bill in car payments, gas, parking and the worse part, insurance.
It is not surprise it has become the inequality capital of Canada, with two major political forces, the not in our backyard and the profit-til-everyone-else-is-priced-out:
https://www.thestar.com/news/gta/2015/02/27/toronto-now-canadas-inequality-capital-united-way-study-shows.html