Cost of Living in Sao Paulo

Cost of Living Index (Excl.Rent): 58.91
Rent Index: 22.00
Groceries Index: 45.74
Restaurants Index: 50.71
Cost of Living Plus Rent Index: 41.20
Local Purchasing Power: 44.06
Restaurants [ Edit ] Avg. Range
Meal, Inexpensive Restaurant 25.00 R$ 20.00-35.00
Meal for 2 People, Mid-range Restaurant, Three-course 120.00 R$ 80.00-160.00
McMeal at McDonalds (or Equivalent Combo Meal) 25.00 R$ 21.00-28.00
Domestic Beer (1 pint draught) 6.00 R$ 4.00-10.00
Imported Beer (11.2 oz small bottle) 15.00 R$ 10.00-20.00
Cappuccino (regular) 5.48 R$ 4.00-7.00
Coke/Pepsi (11.2 oz small bottle) 4.18 R$ 3.00-5.00
Water (11.2 oz small bottle) 2.62 R$ 1.80-4.00
Markets [ Edit ] Avg.
Milk (regular), (1 gallon) 13.26 R$ 10.98-17.03
Loaf of Fresh White Bread (1 lb) 4.62 R$ 3.18-6.35
Rice (white), (1 lb) 1.84 R$ 1.36-2.72
Eggs (12) 6.63 R$ 5.00-9.00
Local Cheese (1 lb) 12.44 R$ 8.16-18.14
Chicken Breasts (Boneless, Skinless), (1 lb) 5.80 R$ 4.54-7.71
Beef Round (1 lb) (or Equivalent Back Leg Red Meat) 11.69 R$ 9.07-14.51
Apples (1 lb) 3.41 R$ 2.27-4.54
Banana (1 lb) 2.06 R$ 1.36-2.72
Oranges (1 lb) 1.78 R$ 0.91-3.18
Tomato (1 lb) 2.74 R$ 1.81-4.04
Potato (1 lb) 2.28 R$ 1.36-3.04
Onion (1 lb) 2.32 R$ 1.17-3.18
Lettuce (1 head) 2.87 R$ 2.00-4.00
Water (1.5 liter bottle) 2.75 R$ 2.00-4.00
Bottle of Wine (Mid-Range) 30.00 R$ 25.00-40.00
Domestic Beer (0.5 liter bottle) 4.96 R$ 3.00-7.00
Imported Beer (11.2 oz small bottle) 10.95 R$ 6.00-17.00
Pack of Cigarettes (Marlboro) 8.00 R$ 7.00-9.50
Transportation [ Edit ] Avg.
One-way Ticket (Local Transport) 3.80 R$ 3.80-3.80
Monthly Pass (Regular Price) 150.00 R$ 140.00-230.00
Taxi Start (Normal Tariff) 4.50 R$ 4.50-5.20
Taxi 1 mile (Normal Tariff) 4.43 R$ 4.43-4.83
Taxi 1hour Waiting (Normal Tariff) 33.00 R$ 33.00-33.00
Gasoline (1 gallon) 13.34 R$ 12.11-14.76
Volkswagen Golf 1.4 90 KW Trendline (Or Equivalent New Car) 78,000.00 R$ 50,000.00-85,000.00
Toyota Corolla 1.6l 97kW Comfort (Or Equivalent New Car) 78,991.95 R$ 69,000.00-98,000.00
Utilities (Monthly) [ Edit ] Avg.
Basic (Electricity, Heating, Water, Garbage) for 915 sq ft Apartment 213.54 R$ 110.00-350.00
1 min. of Prepaid Mobile Tariff Local (No Discounts or Plans) 1.42 R$ 1.00-2.00
Internet (10 Mbps, Unlimited Data, Cable/ADSL) 75.77 R$ 50.00-100.00
Sports And Leisure [ Edit ] Avg.
Fitness Club, Monthly Fee for 1 Adult 148.30 R$ 75.00-300.00
Tennis Court Rent (1 Hour on Weekend) 114.84 R$ 50.00-200.00
Cinema, International Release, 1 Seat 30.00 R$ 25.00-35.00
Childcare [ Edit ] Avg.
Preschool (or Kindergarten), Private, Monthly for 1 Child 3,400.00 R$ 1,500.00-5,000.00
International Primary School, Yearly for 1 Child 38,250.00 R$ 35,000.00-48,000.00
Clothing And Shoes [ Edit ] Avg.
1 Pair of Jeans (Levis 501 Or Similar) 217.05 R$ 129.00-300.00
1 Summer Dress in a Chain Store (Zara, H&M, ...) 163.38 R$ 100.00-250.00
1 Pair of Nike Running Shoes (Mid-Range) 339.65 R$ 250.00-500.00
1 Pair of Men Leather Business Shoes 243.96 R$ 200.00-300.00
Rent Per Month [ Edit ] Avg.
Apartment (1 bedroom) in City Centre 1,924.15 R$ 1,500.00-2,500.00
Apartment (1 bedroom) Outside of Centre 1,355.56 R$ 1,000.00-1,800.00
Apartment (3 bedrooms) in City Centre 3,637.84 R$ 2,500.00-5,000.00
Apartment (3 bedrooms) Outside of Centre 2,518.31 R$ 1,800.00-3,000.00
Buy Apartment Price [ Edit ] Avg.
Price per Square Feet to Buy Apartment in City Centre 921.58 R$ 650.32-1,207.73
Price per Square Feet to Buy Apartment Outside of Centre 630.43 R$ 464.51-836.12
Salaries And Financing [ Edit ] Avg.
Average Monthly Disposable Salary (Net After Tax) 2,255.93 R$
Mortgage Interest Rate in Percentages (%), Yearly 12.13 9.00-16.00

Prices in Sao Paulo, Brazil

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Last update: February, 2017
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Cost of living in Sao Paulo is 41.09% lower than in New York (Info)Our estimator (with default settings) estimate monthly expenses for a single person at 629.74$ (1,927.95R$) and for four person family at 2,313.13$ (7,081.65R$) (without rent).
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62 Comments so far

#Joris on Jan 23, 2017 :
@Jorge Sánchez

This is a good deal. Pinheiros is a relatively safe neighborhood.
Check the coverage of the health insurance.
#Jorge Sánchez on Jan 21, 2017 :
I am a single guy moving to Sao Paulo on July 2017. I got a job as a teacher. The offer goes as follows: R$108,400 yearly salary (after taxes, private insurance, social security and pension deducted). They give a 60sq m apartment (in a building with party room, gym, pool, and sport court included) at the Pinheiros area as a benefit (which I don´t pay), 15min walk from school. Utilities are my responsibility. Is this a good deal? Is that area safe? Will I be able to walk around safely? I would really appreciate your help. THANKS!
#Anderson Carlos D. Sanches on Jan 16, 2017 :
@Xavier: Good school: R$ 1300 / child. Weak school: R$ 650. Top school: R$ 2500
#Kevin Barnes on Nov 11, 2016 :
In Brazil, City Centers are usually bad, and poor. In Sao Paulo for example, the most luxurious areas are outside the city center, and the center is where there are old buildings and a lot of poverty. So, when you see "City Center" apartment costs in Sao Paulo, they look unrealistic. You should classify as First Class Property, Medium-Class Property and Working Class Property. The same is true for a lot of cities in the world (Rio, Mexico DF etc).
#Xavier on Aug 07, 2016 :
How much would I need to pay private school for my three kids in Sao Paulo? They are between 6 and 9 years old.
#Ioannis on Jun 06, 2016 :
Only for the purpose of guidance for those who wish to come and live in Sao Paulo: I am Brazilian, I was born and live in Sao Paulo, I'm 55 years old, I am an architect and I live in Alto de Pinheiros, next to Vila Madalena, we can consider two neighborhoods of middle leg. My salary is approximately 8,000 R$/month. To close my accounts of the month I need help from my wife. Our monthly cost is approximately 14,000 R$/month and we have an outstanding standard of living. When (when) we go out to eat is mostly in Shopping malls. The apartment in which we live is our property (2 bedrooms, living room and a garage, total 70 square meters), we have two low-standard vehicles (a Gol anda a an old Fiesta) , we need daily from internet and cell phone services which in Brazil are very expensive and of poor quality. Without at least a car, a cell phone, and a computer, you are nothing in Sao Paulo, so forget come here. Who imagines that live with quality in the most simple neighbourhoods, our which can be considered a privileged neighborhood, is deluding yourself. Attention, quality in Brazil is not the same in Europe or United States. Good luck to all.
#Vimal on Apr 09, 2016 :
Im a nd indian in relationship with a sao Paulo girl. going to her...she is a nurse...I ill be only 21 years old...I ill not have a job. Is it possible to live with a nurse...whats the salary of a nurse there..a lab technician. ..please tell me guys...
#Reinaldo Gomes on Mar 21, 2016 :
I was born in Sao Paulo and live here for 30 years now, though I'm planning to move on to Canada. Currently, I'm managing to live off my R$2.000 (1.600 after discounts) salary. And still I have to milk it for a little saving if I want to get to Canada someday. That's only possible as I live quite next to the slums, on my own, and I'm not paying for a rent since I live in my relative's house.
If you're coming to Sao Paulo, by all means, you should totally avoid living in Berrini/Vila Olimpia unless you're filthy rich, as these are THE most expensive places over here.

You foreigners who are invited to have a job over here are most likely getting TOP salaries (anything above R$5.000). MOST of the population has a salary lesser than R$3.000, with the average being way, way below that. The prices listed here are about right. But the stating that "cost of living is higher/lower than in X country" is absurdly wrong.

I would say R$3.000 is the very minimum for a single person, with an awful quality of life. R$5.000 should be totally ok for a single person living midway between "most expensive places" and the slums, having minimal fun on free time and decent quality of life (comparing to other people here, not other countries!!), but little to nothing to spare.

So, many people manage to survive over here with R$2.000 or less, while some other think R$10.000 isn't enough. It's up to you to find a neighbourhood/lifestyle where your salary fits in.
My final advice is: if you're not getting paid at least 3x more in reais than you were in dollar, don't even bother coming here.
#Adri on Mar 18, 2016 :
Hi, Pazenha!

Take a look at some apartments to rent in the region you want:

Some terms translated to help you understand the ads:
quartos = bedrooms
suíte = bedroom with bathroom
vaga = parking lot

The text written by Lila just right below yours is very accurate about the cost of living here in Brazil.

If you have questions, just write here and I try to help you.
#Pazenha on Mar 16, 2016 :
Hi all,
I received a proposal to work In S.Paulo and We ar moving from Stockholm Sweden with my wife and a small baby. The package of proposal is 9000 reais as basic salary and a few extras that We didnt put In contract including nanny for our baby and Travel to Europe 2 times a year. Since The Company is In Vila Olímpia área , I want rent something near around. From beginning we will stay In flat that provided by company until we find at least two bedroom apartment.
My question is: Our life In Stockholm it is in middle class. We are iquite simple but We like eat good stuff specially more keen of ekologist stuff , we want to maintance to have basic needs such mobile Internet , I understand the electricity and water will expensive compare to Stockholm , please help guys Do you think 9000 as basic can be enough for me and family?

Many thanks,
#Lila on Feb 13, 2016 :
Hello I am an Australian living here in São Paulo with my Brazilian fiancé who is a biomedical researcher, I work a little bit teaching but we mainly live off his salary which is $6000 reais per month. This isn't enough for us to live comfortably by comparison with a 1st world country. We live in a small apartment smaller than I've ever lived and not even in a nice area of the city just average. We spend $300 every 5 days at the supermarket and this is our main treat as we like to buy fresh produce. We mainly eat at home and we still have no money left to save. We don't go out much as we can't afford it. Neither of us have health insurance and we don't buy any clothes or personal items here as they are frightfully expensive. Anything imported here costs a fortune. For anyone thinking to come here with a family living off $6000 a month right now is crazy, as just a couple we struggle. Cost of living has gone up a lot with the economic situation here. Also you often can't rely on employers to pay salaries on time. I really don't know how people with more simple jobs afford to live here. I can only assume they live in a favela. We can't afford to travel anywhere or eat at nice restaurants maybe once a month? and when you do decide to go and do something in this city you battle with crowds of people doing the same thing, bad traffic and some of the worst drivers in the world. Brazil is a country of beauty and nice to see for tourism but living in their cities is not a good lifestyle at all unless your earning double what we earn to have a fancy apartment and so you can travel to get away from the dirty hectic city life. Sorry but I would deter people from choosing to come here unless they are highly paid as I feel living off $6000 a month we are still poor. Not as poor as millions of people I know but there's nothing worse than only having enough to eat and put a roof over your head with minimal luxuries.
#oldshark on Jan 19, 2016 :
hello to everybody! I'm italian and living in São Paulo since 2011. Just to present some real data we need to consider that this town has an area of more than 1,5 MILLIONS KM² AND MORE THAN 20 MILLION PEOPLE... and some 92 bairros (districts)... the most populated, Graujaú, has more than 0,5 mio people while Marsilac, the smallest, has only a bit more than 12.000....

Now...depending were you decide to live, you can rent a small house of 40/60 sqm for just less than 1.000 Reais (today 250 $) or a large luxury house of 320 sqm, like this one below,

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for 8.000 reais (today 2.000 $)... or even 30.000 reais for a 450 sqm house...

I have spent some 350 reais for meal in a top restaurant but also eated with 15 reais for a PF..prato feito (meal of the day) in a supersimple lanchonete..

So my friends...the choice is any part of the world... the real only bad, bad thing here criminalty..impressive...and they don't dare dare to kill... every car here has black, non transparent windows...and at night, in some areas, you can cross with the red... not forget..if you do not have a will live your weekends in a shopping center... but there you can buy a jeans for just 10$..but also a Levy"s one for 80$ your choice!!!.. good luck here
#Marcos Marins on Jan 13, 2016 :
#Anand, if you dont have to pay for rent, then it's ok. I live in são Paulo for 10 years and rent prices around Berrini are quite high. Keep in mind that it's ok to manage in and around with normal expenses.
If you need help with information about são Paulo, Just let me know.
#Anand on Jan 13, 2016 :
Hi Everyone,
I will be moving to SAO PAULO on business assignment for one year with salary been 5700BRL. Is it manageable in and around Berrini, SA. Please help with your comments
#Juliana on Nov 25, 2015 :
I'm Brazilian and I live in São Paulo. The prices are more or less correct
#Anonymous on Jun 30, 2015 :
The best way to save money if you're there for a short stay and you're American is to put most of your money in an American bank account and use your debit card. The curren
#RealityCheck on Jun 16, 2015 :
Not to be a total wet blanket, but costs in Sao Paulo vary significantly depending on the area you live and because the very definition of "decent" is intrinsic. For the same quality of life I had in Santa Cruz, CA, in Sao Paulo, it would be necessary R$35000/month approximately.

One can estimate the value of a regular apartment between R$7000 and R$14000 per square meter. Rent will cost 0.5% to 1.5% of that. I'd say that, for a two bedroom apartment in an OK area, one would fork around R$4 to R$5000 (rent + water + electricity + condo tax + city tax).

Another couple of thousands for groceries (if nothing too exotic comprises your menu - that would drive the prices up)

Also, for parents: private schools aren't cheap and, in my opinion, they are indispensable. Depending where in Sao Paulo one lives they could cost up to R$4000 times 13 per year per kid.

I'd say that, if one is middle-class in a 1st world country, he would need some R$25000 per month to keep the same quality of life in São Paulo. However, if moving from a 3rd world country, less would be needed.

Same as #Carolina Scagliotti, I'd disagree with those that estimate a decent living in Sao Paulo for less than 5000.
#Carolina Scagliotti on Jun 11, 2015 :
#Maxwel and I hope Im not too late, but I have to disagree with Andrew.

$4100 will barely cover your rent/condominio/services such as water, eletricity and phone, transportation and maybe groceries.
School! This is a big deal... Are you willing to send your kids to a public school? If not, private schools starts at 1500 plus...books and other materials.
Travel...everyone dream while staying in SP... A weekend at the beach for 4 will be around 400.
Consider you ll need twice the offer
#Carolina Scagliotti on Jun 11, 2015 :
hi, i am an IT guy from India and i have an assignment in SP for the next 2 months. My package is 7665 BReal without taxes. Good
Will i be able to afford decent stay and food during my time of stay here? Yes
will there be enough money to save or will i be spending all my money here? Maybe, depends if you rush into nightlife and resto or stay at home.
#Anonymous on Jun 11, 2015 :
#Luisa yes 8000 is not bad. Condo does not include electricity and water.
##Mentor on Feb 23, 2015 :
Excellent site to hear people with needs and also those with knowledge about Sao Paulo and Brazil in whole. I am starting a new company about 200km north of Sao Paulo Delfim Moriera area and will be hiring 4-5 workers lite duty work bagging and shipping product out. So this gives me a great idea of the salary range and what I can offer the people of Brazil. Solar Energy is one of the areas I think we can really help out with getting your Electrical Power in perspective and allow you to grow. Sure is cheaper than current rates I see now. Maybe manufacturing will be the next area we will look at.
#Luisa on Feb 22, 2015 :
Hello, can anyone tell me if R$ 8000 is a good number to live in Sao Paulo for a single person?
Another doubt, dos the cost of the condominio includes wather, electricity etc?
#kainaattaar on Jan 09, 2015 :
hi, i am an IT guy from India and i have an assignment in SP for the next 2 months. My package is 7665 BReal without taxes. Will i be able to afford decent stay and food during my time of stay here?
will there be enough money to save or will i be spending all my money here?
#Gustavo on Jan 05, 2015 :
I am engineer and have lived abroad and traveled for some countries in the last 7 years. As well I work with budgeting projects in different countries.
My work place is São Paulo ( I have lived here different times in the last 20 years), although my home is in São Paulo interior (I travel in a weekly basis), where prices are around 20% percent lower than São Paulo Capital city.
I can say the prices shown here are quite fair for São Paulo (always consider the range shown), for an average professional standard of living.
As in any big city, prices will varies a lot depending on neighborhood you live and prices will rely on research you do. Advise, ask for locals about prices always!
Take into consideration the place you rent your accommodation since staying near metro will easy your live and reduce your costs.
I consider a salary of R$ 7~6.000,00 (after taxes) a reasonable incoming for living in São Paulo (middle cost of living), noting that the common law labor foreseen 13,3 salaries/year and 1 month of paid holidays (you can "sell" 10 work days, in this case you receive 1/3 salary more).
#Andrew Bueno on Dec 30, 2014 :
Yes is it enough for you and your family.
Depending on you will live, prices can change for house rent (700 BRL to 1800 BRL)
Kid School for 4 years depending too, can be 300BRL to 800BRL until 9/10 years.

Living in low class neighborhood can pay a low price.The city is not as dangerous as they say, is just knowing where to walk and when walking

If need more help, can send email in
#maxwel on Dec 05, 2014 :
i have an offer of 4100 BRL per month as a researcher in sao paulo, is it enough for me, my wife and a 4 year old kid? what will be the minimum expenses i will be bearing per month including, house rent, basic needs, kid's schooling and travel etc.??
#Nadine on Oct 29, 2014 :
I've been living in São Paulo my whole life and I have to admit that these costs are really close to reality. I expected to be like 'nah, it's wrong' but no, it's fair, thats exactly the average amount you'll need. Awesome site.
#daou amin on Sep 11, 2014 :
Hi I want to know how much the average of monthly income in general ?
#Gabriel Teixeira on Sep 10, 2014 :
I'm Brazilian and I lived in São Paulo for 1 year. To all those who are wondering to live there: please don't. High crime rate, high prices, low quality of services and goods, people don't speak any foreign language and don't even know how to act when they see a foreigner. Even for a Brazilian it is hard to understand the town. It took me a full year to discover services and places that I enjoyed and many of them I only found after I left. To live alone in a reasonable quality standard you will need no less than R$4000 a month and that is the average initial salary of an engineer.
#Chad on Aug 26, 2014 :
I just moved to Sao Paulo, I am retired from the military and I teach English. My total income was roughly 15,000 real per month after tax. I have no idea if that's good or bad. Could someone please let me kn based on my Sao Paulo is the place for me based on my income.
#Regis on Jul 10, 2014 :
I've lived here for about 10 years. Sao Paulo is a great city, with thousands options to live, eat and have fun. You can choose cheap or expensive, but you need to seek hard...
#rami on Jun 22, 2014 :
This is an insane city
Costly and cant live if your salary less than 3500 R$
#Anonymous on Jun 17, 2014 :

The rent average calculated in Numbeo is not accurate. Expect to spend more than 2500 BRL, or half of your salary just to keep an apartment in a reasonable neighborhood.

I recommend looking for places near metro stations in Green, Yellow or Blue lines.

The rest of your salary would be enough for transport and groceries. I think 4900 BRL for two is not enough to save any money.

An accepted ratio of rent/salary would be less than 40% (or at least 6000 BRL of salary after taxes). From this point it would be easier to save money.
#Jimmy on Jun 16, 2014 :
Hi everyone,

I want to go to Sao Paulo. My monthly salary will be about 4900 BRL after tax. Is my salary cover living cost at Sao Paulo for a couple without children? Can I made saving? For example what is the rent amount for a 60 m2 apartment in a relatively good place of city? thanks in advance ....
#Rodrigo on May 20, 2014 :
These prices are completly non-sense (at all). Very wealthy people are posting things here, that will not reflect Sao Paulo reality.

That's a shame. I am now living in Munich and I have done a bad judgement based on this.

You can see real prices below:
Also, you can find cheaper apartament to live in São Paulo (half the price here):
You can find easily here: (85m2 3 rooms)
#M.ibrahim on May 11, 2014 :
Hi... I need to know the living expenses in sao paulo. I am living in pakistan and want to come in brazil but i dont know how much money i required per month to live and what is the exact way of find job there
#Christian Marques on May 11, 2014 :
That's the reality folks, São Paulo is big pile of shit, as everybody knows, to come to live in this city from a first world country, is a bad joke, but there is some good cities in Brazil (still expensive) but more down to earth, like Curitiba, Porto Alegre, Caxias do Sul, São Jose dos Campos,..., but DON'T Come to São Paulo, neither Rio de Janeiro!
#North Fox on Mar 15, 2014 :
Hey Nitin,

I think $ 100 or R$ 250 a day help you. Recommend the use of credit cards, it is a bit dangerous to ride with a lot of money, especially if someone watch your wallet while you pay someone.

See ya!
#Nitin on Mar 12, 2014 :
Hi All,
I am planning to visit a friend who is staying at SP. Needed advice how much money with me. I shall be travelling from India and will be staying with him. I plan to stay for two weeks or so. So how much money would be good.
Am not to fond of shopping, so most of my money shall go in eating, drinking.. and chilling at the beach! figures in R$/USD would be preferred...
thanks a lot in advance..
#RidOfMe on Mar 10, 2014 :
Basic (Electricity, Heating, Water, Garbage) for 85m2 Apartment

it is hard to find a price there. If you live in a "condominio", as are most of the buildings in the city center, then you'll pay a package for the concierge, the cleaning of the building, the refurbishment costs, the elevator(s)... Say the rent for your flat is 2000 BRL/month (2 bedrooms in Pinheiros neighbourhood, Brazilians still do not think in terms of surface but of number of rooms), you have to add the "condominio tax" of 600-700 per month and the local tax IPTU (say 90 per month).

So for Sao Paulo Pinheiros, in 2014
rent for 75m2, 2 beds = 1800-2000 per months
condominio tax = 650
IPTU local tax = 80
about 2600 BRL per month.

Then add the other costs like electricity+internet.
#Diego Guerra on Feb 26, 2014 :
Hi for all you guys, the World Cup is coming, so DO NOT COME TO BRAZIL!
seriously, tourists are an easy target for the local robbers and everykind of criminal person.
And the local sellers, shopping centers and every piece of local shit are inconsiously prepared to take all your money just because you are tourist.

So, don't come to sao paulo, or brazil.
#I HATE BRAZIL!!! on Jan 15, 2014 :
"#maka on Jan 11, 2014 :
Hi all, I am writing from Georgia (former Soviet Union). I need your advice. Imagine when a couple earns 400 USD a month and the couple has to take care of 2 moms within this salary// what do you think, is it better in this case to move to Sao Paolo and work somewhere in the factory as a worker for both ???? Can somebody tell me anything about Potirendaba? is it a safe and normal place? is it expensive to live there? we need just average salary, just gross 2000 USD for me and 2000USD for a husband. Is it possible to earn this amount in the factory? Just write me your advice and suggestions. Thanks a lot ."

Hi. Just saw your post. Potirendaba is a small town in the State of São Paulo. It's not close to the City of São Paulo, the state's capital. You'd need to travel around 440 km to go from Potirendaba to São Paulo - that's roughly 5 hours' drive. I'm not really familiar with Potirendaba and the local economy (to be quite honest, I'd never heard about it before seeing your post), but I don't think you'll ever make 4,000 USD (2,000 US for each of you) in Potirendaba by working in a factory (unless you own the factory). 2,000 USD is more than the starting salary of a lawyer in the City of São Paulo (most firms pay lawyers fresh out of law school around 1,500 USD). As a lawyer, you'll only make 2000 USD around two years after graduation. I'm using lawyers as my basis for comparison because that's what I am... A factory worker is likely to get minimum wage only - and nowadays that is around 350 USD... And getting a job here as an immigrant isn't easy. I'd forget about moving to Brazil if I were you. Not only you'll not get the kind of money you want, but this place sucks big time too!
#maka on Jan 11, 2014 :
Hi all, I am writing from Georgia (former Soviet Union). I need your advice. Imagine when a couple earns 400 USD a month and the couple has to take care of 2 moms within this salary// what do you think, is it better in this case to move to Sao Paolo and work somewhere in the factory as a worker for both ???? Can somebody tell me anything about Potirendaba? is it a safe and normal place? is it expensive to live there? we need just average salary, just gross 2000 USD for me and 2000USD for a husband. Is it possible to earn this amount in the factory? Just write me your advice and suggestions. Thanks a lot .
#I HATE BRAZIL!!! on Jan 08, 2014 :
"#rdeolm on Aug 01, 2013 :
Anybody know which % of the salary is deducted in taxes/others from the gross salary in Brazil? I am considering moving with my wife to Sao Paulo with a gross salary of 69000 US$/year. Is this enough for both of us?"

Taking into account the current exchange rate, 69,000 USD a year will translate into around R$140,000 a year or R$11,666 a month (we usually use monthly figures here).

Every month, R$457 will be taken off your monthly salary and will be used toward your INSS contribution (our national social security system)... that will leave you with R$11,209. Now you take off 27.5% (income tax)... that will leave you with R$8,127... now you add around R$790 (which is the amount used by the government to square things up regarding your tax income - this number is adjusted upward every year). Therefore, in the end, you’ll wind up with R$8,917 a month…

In my opinion, for a couple, that isn’t much… especially if you ever want to have kids… I reckon a couple would need around R$30,000 to have a reasonable life style in SP (by reasonable I mean: you’re able to afford a good private school for one child, you’re able to go on vacation at least once a year, you’re able to eat out at least twice a week at a reasonably good restaurant, you’re able to afford two national cars). However, I’ve seen people get by with a lot less… But life in SP is so f***king miserable that I wouldn’t come here if I were you… unless, of course, you’re moving here from a war zone country or other shitty place.
#I HATE BRAZIL!!! on Jan 08, 2014 :
"#dung on Sep 22, 2013 :
hi, anyone can recommend good and safe neighborhood in Sao paulo not very expensive? Specially with private schools."

What you mean by "not very expensive"? What is your budget? Bear in mind private schools aren't cheap here in Brazil...
#I HATE BRAZIL!!! on Jan 08, 2014 :
#alister on Nov 08, 2013 :
são Paulo is a big shit, i hate it!

True that!!!
#I HATE BRAZIL!!!! on Jan 08, 2014 :
"#Thejas on Oct 23, 2013 :
Hello i got a offer from sao paulo 2400 Brazilian reais/month i am single does that enough for me to live comfortably there.?"

Don't even bother coming for that... R$2400/month won't be enough for you to live in SP... You can correct me if I'm wrong, but that is probably before taxes, right? I'm not good with numbers, but I think R$2400 will translate into about R$1800-R$1900 after taxes... with that kind of money, you'll wind up in the slums... and you're still probably gonna have a hard time making ends meet...
#I HATE BRAZIL!!!!!!!!!!!!! on Jan 08, 2014 :
Sao Paulo is a big pile of shit, covered in more shit, wrapped around more shit... but when you live here and look at prices (from rent to a bottle of water) you have the impression that it is a big pile of gold, covered in more gold, wrapped around more gold. I love this website, but the Sao Paulo prices are utterly wrong... For example, a three-course meal in SP doesn’t go for less than R$180-200 for two people... a Levis 501 won’t go for less than R$300... basic utilities: R$300/month. And you have to factor in that a chocking percentage of those jaw-dropping (in a bad way) prices are made up of outrageous taxes... and what you get in return for the insanely high taxes you pay? F****KING nothing. If you take out Africa (except for SA) and some middle east countries, I reckon Brazil (and especially Sao Paulo) is one of the shittiest places on earth to live in… we have it all here: insane traffic, chocking crime rates, corruption everywhere… you name it… every shitty thing you can think of, we’ve got it!!! My advice: if you’ve got a dual nationality (like a lot of Brazilian do) get the f***k outta here!!!! That’s what I’m gonna do… I have a newborn child at home and this is no place to raise a family…
#THE SAD STUFF on Nov 12, 2013 :
I don't think these numbers are right, because basically everything in Sao Paulo except for property renting prices (which is a little bit more expensive in US), is FAR more expensive in Brazil than in USA.
Be prepared to pay 2 to 4 times more money in the same products of daily need, sometimes more than 5 times in some other more exquisite stuff (even comparing in dollar).
The car you're used to buy for 15,000 dollars in US, is gonna cost you 37,000 dollars.
The same can of soda that was 20 cents, is gonna cost you 80 cents.
Remember that, converted to dollar, Brazilian minimum wage is something like 300 dollars, which makes everything even more bizarre.
#alister on Nov 08, 2013 :
são Paulo is a big shit, i hate it!
#Thejas on Oct 23, 2013 :
Hello i got a offer from sao paulo 2400 Brazilian reais/month i am single does that enough for me to live comfortably there.?
#dung on Sep 22, 2013 :
hi, anyone can recommend good and safe neighborhood in Sao paulo not very expensive? Specially with private schools.
#Bia on Aug 24, 2013 :

Moving here with a salary of 6k monthly is enough for a couple. But not to live with much luxury.
If you're moving out from a safe city, this is not a nice deal.
Also, consider less 20% of your salary. This quantity is already discounted to pay government taxes.
#Bia on Aug 24, 2013 :

This is a fair proposal indeed. But not to life a no stress life. I can surely say that you'll get a lot of stress here in Sao Paulo, as in any other big city in the world. Probably a bit more.
Be prepare to get stuck in traffic for a while, also to deal with unpolited and stressed people.
I live here and I seriously want to get out. Specially because São Paulo has a lot of people already living here and it doesn't not have space for anybody else. Other cities are a lot better, like Florianópolis or Brasília .
#rdeolm on Aug 01, 2013 :
Anybody know which % of the salary is deducted in taxes/others from the gross salary in Brazil? I am considering moving with my wife to Sao Paulo with a gross salary of 69000 US$/year. Is this enough for both of us?
#Durges on Jul 26, 2013 :
Hi, I am relocating to Sao Paulo. I have 6 years experience in accounting. Appreciate if someone could help me to know how much the cost of living in Sao Paulo for a couple and how much salary should I ask my employer based on my experience? In other words, what is the pay scale per month for 6 year experience accountant in Sao Paulo? Thanks You, Obrigado/a.
#GM on May 17, 2013 :
I don't those people who talk about 10-15K monthly salary asking if it is ok or not but it seems ridiculous to me. This is somewhere around 4-5.5K in Euros. With this amount you own cities like Madrid and Barcelona and I'm pretty sure they are as expensive as Sao who the fuck doesn't have a good life earning 5K a month...anywhere in the world, even Switzerland. Not to mention that average salaries in cities like Paris, Frankfurt, Munich, Milan, Moscow are around 2K....pfff what a nonsense questions those cocksuckers at multinationals ask... damn it!
#Paulo on Apr 25, 2013 :

I receive a job Offer to work in Sao Paulo. The gross monthly salary (without any bonus) is about 15k BRL. Company will pay for housing and school (8k/ month for housing and 2k per child month) and transportation.
I will be moving with my wife and two kids.
Its a fair proposal to have stress free life?
#Daniel on Apr 16, 2013 :
Hi David,
Is the R$ 10000,00 before or after taxes?
Anyway, it is depend on your way of life, and the neighborhood you are going to live in.
I used to live in Sao Paulo in a middle class neighborhood ( Vila Mariana ), me and my wife had at the time a house incoming around R$ 15000,00 after taxes. We had one baby, full time on school (aprox R$1800,00), we paid a mortgage (around R$3000,00), we used to dining out quite often, we had a comfortable life but at the end of the month we did not have a lot of spare money.
With R$10000,00 you will get a better salary than most of brazilian, but do not expect save a lot of money.
The good news is there are a lot of good free events for families with babies in Sao Paulo.
I hope I have helped.
#David on Apr 13, 2013 :
Is a salary of 10000 Real is enough for a couple with a baby in Sao Paulo?
Not including the rent (paid by the company).
#Tales Rosa on Apr 03, 2013 :
Great website.
Prices of rent in Sao Paulo seem higher in reality.
I'm from Sao Paulo, have lived in Europe, and now back living at home city everything feels expensive. There's a shortage of flats and renting in a decent neighborhood is expensive.
I and my wife have cut restaurants from our routine due to prices.
There's a lot of work, though. Only on the 2km stretch from my house to the metro there are several signs of job vacancies and buildings are springing up all over.
#Thiago on Feb 20, 2013 :
São Paulo is way expensive than the rest of Brazil.
But if you take into account that the State of São Paulo corresponds to 40% of Brazil's GDP and that the single Paulista Avenue corresponds to 10% of Brazil's GDP...that should answer the question why its expensive.